[nagdu] airline travel with a guide dog

Darla Rogers djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Mon May 20 03:57:22 UTC 2013


Hi Cindy Lou,

	For those with iPhones, I believe there is an app now; I believe
Portland International  (PDX) has one, too, and I believe there are several
others, but I am very happy to hear our needs are bei9ng considered, as my
own dog had an accident in O'Hare, and I had done everything I had been
taught, including taking her out an extra time **when we got to my departure
airport) less than 20 minutes from my home.
Darla & Precious Roxy


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:52 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] airline travel with a guide dog

There are some airports that are starting to have some relief areas in  gate
areas. Mostly, though, to my knowledge those are few and far between. I only
ran into such things in Memphis. 

CL

On May 19, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Mary Wurtzel" <marywurtzel at att.net> wrote:

> 		The only time Felix and I have flown was coming home from
training.  
> At that time we had a problem with the seven hours of time being in 
> the airport.  We were trying to get at of security to take the dog 
> out, but he had an accident on the way.  Is here any other way to 
> handle relief besides havig to go out through securityand then having 
> to go back through with all of their checking.  I  me, because of 
> wearing a brace they made e have a major pat-down  I mean they touched 
> me all over. I didn't lik eit one bit Mary
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:55 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
> 
> That is good information. I was an airport pick up when I had the one 
> problem; most of the time I don't. How do you find if you are flagged. 
> If you are using a mobile taxicab app, would that necessarily show up 
> in your profile if you didn't put it there?
> 
> Cindy Lou
> 
> On May 18, 2013, at 7:46 AM, "blind411" <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> Since we cannot be denied service because of our guide dogs, it is 
>> best to not advise them of this fact in advance. Advanced 
>> notification causes more discrimination than it resolves. If you want 
>> to wait forever for a
> taxicab,
>> let the dispatcher know you have a guide dog. If you want to make 
>> sure you don't get discriminated against, deal with the issue when it 
>> arises rather than create the issue by advanced notification. Also, 
>> if you learn that
> your
>> name, number, or address is flagged in a taxicab company's system as
> having
>> a guide dog and this information seems to be the reason you are not
> getting
>> equal benefits, it is a vilation of the ADA.
>> 
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:32 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>> 
>> I have had drivers tell me that I should have said that I had a dog 
>> in
> case
>> the driver had allergies. I said I was not required to and didn't 
>> intend
> to
>> start. I don't think he liked me. One night a driver told me the dog 
>> couldn't get so close to him in his van. He kept babbling about it, 
>> and I told him if he would get on with the trip home from the 
>> airports, we would be out of his cab and he wouldn't have to worry 
>> about it anymore. I got
> home
>> not so much later.
>> 
>> CL
>> 
>> On May 17, 2013, at 6:01 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
wrote:
>> 
>>> hi marry, i did have a cab driver.
>>> told me once.
>>> that he couldn't have my dog in his cab.
>>> but i stayed calm.
>>> and ordered a another cab. to drive me to my appointmentt.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 17, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Mary Wurtzel wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I had my first  experience with someone who was allergic to dogs on 
>>>> a bus today.
>>>> The lady insisted on standing up at the front of the bus.  I didn't 
>>>> know anything else I could do except to let her be.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>> Carcione
>>>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:10 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>>> 
>>>> Indeed it is, but I rather like New Journey!
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:36 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Isn't it the New Jersey Guide Dog Users?
>>>>> 
>>>>> CL
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 16, 2013, at 7:18 AM, rhonda cruz 
>>>>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi krystal,  that is the new journey guide dog users,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 15, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Christel Sogenbits wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe it is  a very stupid question but what is NJAGDU?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tervitades / With greetings
>>>>>>> Christel Sogenbits
>>>>>>> GSM: +372 58 440 521
>>>>>>> E-mail: christel.chrissu at gmail.com
>>>>>>> Skype: christel.chrissu
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>>>>> Carcione
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>>> Users
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Trish Ebel posted this info to the NJAGDU list, and Marion asked 
>>>>>>> that it
>>>> 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> forwarded here as well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: Njagdu [mailto:njagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> Trish Ebel
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>>>> To: New Jersey Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>> Subject: [Njagdu] Interesting information that may be helpful to 
>>>>>>> someone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> While working with one of the Bergen county school districts we 
>>>>>>> came across this problem, so I just wanted to share some helpful
>> information.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In a situation where one student is allergic to dogs and another 
>>>>>>> uses a service dog, the student using the service animal should 
>>>>>>> be accommodated.
>>>>>>> However, there needs to be some thought given to the student 
>>>>>>> with allergies.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> When they are in a class together, they should be spacially
> separated.
>> 
>>>>>>> Here
>>>>>>> is just such an idea from the Department of Justice's document, 
>>>>>>> Revised ADA Requirements; Service Animals. This is in regard to 
>>>>>>> the new regulations published in 2010.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> a.. Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying 
>>>>>>> access or
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> refusing service to people using service animals. When a person 
>>>>>>> who is allergic to dog dander and a person who uses a service 
>>>>>>> animal must spend time in the same room or facility, for 
>>>>>>> example, in a school classroom or
>>>> 
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> a homeless shelter, they both should be accommodated by 
>>>>>>> assigning them, if possible, to different locations within the 
>>>>>>> room or different rooms in the facility.
>>>>>>> http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Job Accommodation Network has suggestions for this kind of 
>>>>>>> scenario in the workplace. Some of those ideas would not and 
>>>>>>> cannot work in a school setting, but some of them might help to 
>>>>>>> improve the situation. For example, perhaps a portable air 
>>>>>>> purifier could be used in the class room and/or a HEPA filter 
>>>>>>> could be used for the ventilation system for that room.
>>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>>> perhaps the student with the service animal could agree to use a 
>>>>>>> dander control product from the veterinarian or local pet store.
>>>>>>> The school could also make for certain that the class room is 
>>>>>>> cleaned regularly; dusted, vacuumed, floors washed, etc. Here is 
>>>>>>> the link to the JAN document.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://askjan.org/corner/vol02iss01.htm
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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