[nagdu] Article: Scared Publix customer sprays seeing-eye dog

Fri May 24 00:57:36 UTC 2013

Hi Nicole! Thaught you disappeared!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Article: Scared Publix customer sprays seeing-eye dog


>I agree that something needs to be done but that jail  probably is not the
> answer, especially since she has a mental illness.
> One point that I would like to make, though, is that it is possible that 
> her
> employer did not know about her mental illness.
> Finally, I feel that we need to remember that we do not know all of the
> facts, and, what we do know, we cannot be 100% sure is true or properly
> conveyed as this is just a news article, not a police or other 
> investigative
> report.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of L Gwizdak
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 3:53 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Article: Scared Publix customer sprays seeing-eye dog
>
> As far as the woman being afraid of dogs or if that was an appropriate job
> for her to be in, the bottom line is that she has NO RIGHT to spray a dog 
> in
> the face with chlorine.  That is assault and it can do damage to the
> corneas.  It souonded like she took a bottle of Clorox - which is NOT 
> mixed
> or diluted with water - and sprayed the dog in the eyes.  What if she
> sprayed a person in the eyes with Clorox? An assault on our dogs is an
> assault on us.
>
> That woman is still responsible for her actions and needs to be aware of
> that fact and take the consequences.  I do not advocate jail.  That will
> teach her nothing.  A more positive thing might be to make sure she is on
> the correct meds and they work for her.  She also needs to be employed in 
> a
> job that is approproate for her illness.  Obviously, she felt intense 
> stress
> when she saw the dog and did what she did.  She also needs to be told in 
> no
> uncertain terms that service dogs are allowed in any store - grocery or
> otherwise - and they will be admitted with their disabled or blind 
> patrons.
> She deals with it appropriately or finds another job where she doesn't 
> have
> to interact with the general public.
>
> Lyn and Landon
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 10:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Article: Scared Publix customer sprays seeing-eye dog
>
>
>> All,
>> this is another one of those cases where it should be decided who
>> should be accommendated. Just like Marion posted about a week or so
>> ago, a person who has an allergy to dogs, has to figure it out
>> themselves, its their responsibility. Is a blind persons needs more
>> important than a persons with a mental health issue? or is it the
>> other way around? Its a very sad case. What the store clerk did was
>> horrible, what her punishment should be I am not sure. But if she had
>> any assistance in being placed in that job, whom ever was helping her
>> should have gotten that information that she was afraid of dogs,
>> before placing her in a potential location that would have service
>> animals involved. I mean it could have been a a person who is
>> physically impaired come in with a service animal, the clerk could
>> have done the same thing. The clerk was afraid of dogs, it doesn't
>> matter about the who has the dog, its a dog, no matter what
>> disability. Mental health is now considered a disability. I am not sure
> there is a right or wrong in this case.
>>
>> Marsha drenth
>> Sent with my IPhone
>>
>> On May 23, 2013, at 11:12 AM, "Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire"
>> <orleans24 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I hope this owman that did this ends up serving time in jail and has
>>> to pay the $5000.00 fine.
>>> Wht this customer service representative di was unbelievable.
>>> I don't care if she has a mental illness, but what she did to the
>>> guide dog is very unexceptable and unexcusable!!!
>>> This makes me very angry and mad!!!
>>> *Disgusted and upset*
>>> I do hope that the guide dog has not suffered any trauma from this
>>> incident.
>>> Bibi and son Odie
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 8:09 PM
>>> Subject: Article: Scared Publix customer sprays seeing-eye dog Scared
>>> Publix customer sprays seeing-eye dog with bleach Sunrise resident
>>> cited for animal cruelty A seeing-eye dog had bleach squirted in its
>>> eyes at a Publix grocery store when a 67-year-old woman intentionally
>>> sprayed the animal in an unprovoked attack, a police report says.
>>> The 5-year-old yellow Labrador retriever appeared uninjured, the
>>> report said, but Patricia Lawler, of Sunrise, was cited for animal
>>> cruelty and given a notice to appear after the 4:15 p.m. Saturday
>>> incident at the store at 10155 W. Oakland Park Blvd.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Lawler told police she "thought it was a vicious animal" and feared
>>> it would be a danger to other customers, so she grabbed a spray
>>> bottle of Clorox cleaner off a shelf and sprayed the animal in the
>>> eyes and back.
>>> "I realize now it was a mistake," Lawler said when reached by
>>> telephone Monday. "I have a fear of dogs. It was just a big dog with
>>> a big head. I was just afraid."
>>> Lawler said she takes medication for schizoaffective disorder, and
>>> paranoia is one the symptoms associated with her mental illness.
>>> The dog's owner, Ronda Carin Shore, 45, also of Sunrise, told police
>>> she is blind and keeps the canine with her at all times. It was
>>> wearing a service-dog vest, an assist handle and a placard, the
>>> report said.
>>> Shore declined to comment Monday.
>>> Although the dog wasn't exhibiting aggressive behavior, Lawler said
>>> she got scared when she saw it and asked Shore to leave the store
>>> with the dog. When that didn't produce results, she said she resorted
>>> to the spray bleach to get rid of the animal.
>>> "I was afraid the dog would go wild, or some small child would get
>>> bitten, or somebody would get hurt," Lawler said. "I guess I
>>> overreacted. But I still feel like a dog doesn't belong in a place
>>> like a grocery store."
>>> If convicted of the first-degree misdemeanor, Lawler faces up to a
>>> year in jail and/or a $5,000 fine.
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