[nagdu] Working in the Snow

Mon Feb 17 20:48:38 UTC 2014

True! I was also pointing out that using your mobility skills in tandem 
works really well!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darla Rogers" <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [nagdu] Working in the Snow


> Hi Larry,
>
> Very good; she may realize that is what you want, in time, but they
> are obstacle avoidant--which how they were trained--so I think Raben had
> some good ideas about how to train what you want without spoiling training
> you still need.
> I am constantly amazed at how adaptable these dogs really are given
> a chance; when Huck makes a "mistake"--because that is how he was
> trained--I'll say, very gently, "not that way little boy"  and try to show
> him what I do want and then lavishly praise3.
> Darla & Handsome Huck
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
> Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 6:03 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>
> Exactly! For example yesterday. Holly and I were out in the snow and cold.
> She found a clear path but it turned out it wasn't going where I needed to
> go. I had to stop, listen and find the right way. It wasn't as clear but 
> we
> managed because I listened and refocused on the busy street I line up 
> with.
> Holly was taking the safest path but not the right one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2014 11:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
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>
>> Rebecca,
>>
>> I think that what Barb meant is that the people were expecting the dog
>> to make the decisions on where to go. There is a difference in having
>> your dog wait while you work with your GPS to figure out where you are
>> going and just expecting your dog to magically know the way.
>>
>> Nicole and Lexia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Star Gazer
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 10:24 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>>
>> One word for you, Barb, and that is GPS.
>> It's everywhere now and most of its users are sighted.
>> I say this only because when someone who can see pauses to figure out
>> where they are, and what they need to do next, it's regarded as
>> normal. Yet, you don't seem willing to give these men the same
>> latitude. Why is that?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> barbandzoe at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 12:10 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>>
>> HI everyone, I hope you and your dogs are staying warm.
>>
>> I have not gotten my dog yet, and I am also looking at Fidelco.  but
>> the reason I am sending this is because, everyone talks about
>> ownership, and Yes I do think it is nice to have the ownership, but I
>> also see why some schools don't let you just take the dog and run.  I
>> think with all schools there should be a time of about a year, on your
>> first dog, before you have ownership, because this way the school can
>> make sure you know how to handle a dog, both as a guide and as a pet.
>>
>> I say this because I have been watching a couple of guys in my city
>> who have guide dogs, and they don't seem to know how to travel by
>> themselves, and then they have to tell this poor confused dog which
>> way to go.  They get off the bus and stand there just trying to decide
>> if they should go left, right or forward.  the dog is just standing
>> looking around and then at his person waiting to go. How I know that
>> the people on this list are probably some of the better dog users,
>> because to me you wouldn't be on a list like this if
>> you didn't care about your dog and helping other with theirs.   But I see
>> this and I think to myself, why did they give these guys a dog,
>> because to me he looks like he needs a bit more O&M training before he
>> can be responsible for this dog. I say this because when I talk to the
>> schools, they tell me time and time again, that I need to walk and
>> work these dogs almost every day to keep their skills sharp, No
>> problem.  So I think, does the school know how the guy travels and is
>> this still OK.  I have also seen some very good dog users and the dogs
>> seem so much happier and confident in what they are doing.
>>
>> As I look at the  things people say and have said about their best and
>> not so best guide dog school, It looks to me that you find a school
>> with the kind of dog you want and the kind of training you can do,
>> plus if you want to travel a long way from home or stay nearby.
>> I chose Fidelco because I wanted a GSD, and if I were to take four
>> weeks off work, I wouldn't have job to come home to. I think most of
>> the schools are very good, we mostly near about them when things go
>> wrong.  there are a lot of people out there that have guide dogs from
>> all the schools and are very happy in their choice.  so I think you
>> need to look at what they offer and see which one feels right for you.
>>
>> Barb
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "National Association of Guide Dog Users" <blind411 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 5:09:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>>
>> Matt,
>>        Please read my article in the April 2011 Braille Monitor
>> concerning Fidelco and my blog post at
>>
>> Harnessup.wordpress.org
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Matthew
>> Dierckens
>> Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 3:57 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Introducing myself, and a question
>>
>> Hello everyone.
>> I thought I'd come over here and introduce myself, and I have a bit of
>> an inquiry.
>> My name is Matt, and I am from Ontario Canada. I am hoping to get a
>> guide dog sometime in the future, my goal is to have one by the end of
>> this year.
>> I've done extended research and spoken to various schools.
>> I came across this school called Fidelco. If there's anyone on this
>> list who have had experiences, good or bad with Fidelco, I'd like to
>> hear about them.
>>
>> Thank you. :)
>>
>> Matthew Dierckens
>> Macintosh Trainer
>> Blind Access Training
>> www.blindaccesstraining.com
>> 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
>>
>>
>>
>>
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