[nagdu] Leash guiding WAS: re3 ,Age of Qualifying Guide Dogs

[Jenine Stanley]

This really depends on the student, the dog and the student’s prior experience. Initially it took me all of 3 weeks during a 3.5 week class. I’ve seen people getting their first dog though pick it up right away.
Jenine Stanley
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On Feb 21, 2014, at 2:22 PM, Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Jenine,
> 
> 	Thank you for explaining that so well; can you give an average or
> approximation on how long it takes a student to learn it?
> Darla & Happy Huck
> 
> 
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:27 AM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Leash guiding WAS: re3 ,Age of Qualifying Guide Dogs
> 
> To my knowledge, Guide Dog Foundation is the only school to formally teach
> leash guiding. We do so with many caveats. 
> 
> 1. Leash guiding should only be used in familiar, preferable indoor areas or
> in extreme emergencies such as a harness breaking. 
> 
> 2. Leash guiding should never be used to cross streets on a regular basis
> because when doing it correctly and efficiently, you are much closer to the
> dog's shoulders, giving it less stopping time/distance. 
> 
> 3. There are right and wrong ways to safely use leash guiding and if your
> dog wasn't trained to do it, the process can cause more problems than it
> helps. Yes, many of you do use the leash to work your dogs and no one here
> is dead yet but is it the safest, most efficient way to work the dog? 
> 
> 4. Leash guiding should never be used or at least should be used in
> conjunction with a harness being worn, when entering businesses, moving
> about a hotel or other public place. We say this because the public has a
> difficult enough time trying to tell what a real service animal is without
> the confusion of a dog simply on leash working. Yes, it's perfectly legal
> and all that but sometimes just because a thing is so doesn't make it right
> or easy. :) 
> 
> For me coming to GDf from Pilot Dogs, learning to work my dog using only the
> leash was the hardest part of class beyond the different harness feel. When
> done the way we teach it, you can leash guide through Manhattan crowds, not
> recommended but doable, without hitting anyone.
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
> 
> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
> 
> On Feb 21, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Leash guiding means the dog is working as a guide even out of harness.
> I've secretly allowed my girl to do this as it has helped me in many
> situations. I generally only do this indoors and not around stairs as LDB
> didn't train the dogs for this skill.
>> Alyssa
>> 
>> Sent From My iPhone 
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have never heard of the term "leash guiding".  Can someone tell me what
> this is, or what it entails?
>>> 
>>> Daryl and the sleeping Jenny
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com>
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:38:11 -0700 (MST)
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] re3 ,Age of Qualifying Guide Dogs
>>> 
>>> I personally like the idea of leash guiding. In fact, when I was at LDB,
> Sophie girl did this often to keep me from hitting walls. LDB disapproved
> this method but I'm glad to see that doesn't apply to all the schools.
>>> Alyssa
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:09 AM, lizzy <lizzym0827 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Shannon,
>>>> It's funny that you say that about the maturity level of your dogs
> because I've heard a similar comment from another GDF handler.  She said
> that in general, GDF's dogs are a bit better when it comes to manners and
> behavior.  She seems to believe that it has to do with GDF teaching their
> dogs more commands than other schools, and also leash guiding.  Has anyone
> else heard or seen this?
>>>> Just curious,
>>>> Lizzy
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