[nagdu] What Should Dogs Eat ws RE: Growing Up Fisher

Nicole Torcolini ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Tue Feb 25 05:14:19 UTC 2014 

If someone asked me what a dog should, I would not answer dog food or human
food. When you look at it from that angle, you're kind of missing the whole
point. I agree that there's nothing wrong with feeding dogs what most people
call "human food". However, dogs don't need all of the stuff that humans
usually put on their food, such as sauce and gravy . Some lean meat would be
just fine as dog food. Some dogs seem to also need some of the other stuff,
such as fiber, that is found in the manufactured dog food. As far as that is
concerned, it's all about looking at the ingredients. What is in the food,
and in what order?
Finally, although dogs will eat almost anything, I don't always think that
it is a good idea to feed them certain fruits and vegetables. Some of them,
like apples and bananas, tend to work fine, but there are certain others
that don't get digested very well; this also includes nuts. Dogs will eat
fruits, vegetables, and nuts, but they are carnivores, so some of that stuff
does not work well with their systems.
And, last but not least, some people choose not to feed their guide dogs
human food, especially directly from he table, because it causes the dog to
beg. I've heard people say that that can be avoided, but it's still not
something that I am willing to try.

Nicole and Lexia will likes her dog food but will let you know if she needs
a different one

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
barbandzoe at comcast.net
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 5:02 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher

The veal shops were given the dog by the hotel because the man said he could
sew Remember they got the hot nudge sundaes,  How is meat people only food. 
I would rather give my dogs meat then most of the dog treats out there.  So
much of that stuff is all corn and wheat.  Dogs eat meat, veggies and fruits
in the wild. and by wild I mean dogs like foxes, coyotes, and to some extent
wolves. Many times when dogs get sick many times people who deal in animal
nutrition will tell you to cook for your dog and give them meat, brown rice
and veggies.  If you have a fat dog we have been told to give dogs veggies
for treats. 
  
I still liked the show and will watch it again. 
Barb  

----- Original Message -----

From: "Raven Tolliver" <ravend729 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:01:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher 

Hi,
As someone who is very against manufactured dog food, there is nothing wrong
with feeding dogs raw meat that has been treated and handled a certain way. 
In fact, guide dog schools in the earlier days used to feed the dogs raw
meat, or maybe it was cooked. It doesn't matter, manufactured dog food is a
very new concept. And guess what pet dogs and working dogs ate before that
cancer-laden stuff was concocted. Guess what wild canines eat. 

On 2/24/14, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Doug,
> LOL Oh ow that is a grand idea for those who are not happy with this list.

> Atleast you broke the sort of funky feeling the list had. 
> Thanks for the smile. 
> *cough* back to our normally regularly schedule guide dog talk..LOL
> 
> Marsha drenth
> Sent with my IPhone
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Doug Parisian <eggmann at mymts.net> wrote: 
>> 
>> Obviously adding to the tedium but, something worth serious 
>> consideration, if one cannot abide by list rules in terms of eticate 
>> and topic rules, simple solution leave!  You could go one step 
>> further and set up your own list with your own rules--YIKES!
>> 
>>> On 24/02/2014 3:55 PM, Marsha Drenth wrote: 
>>> Howard,
>>> You asked what rules had been broken. The rule of respect. By Mike's 
>>> tone, he was not being respectful of Buddy. Again this had nothing 
>>> to do with the actual writing, but the way he sounded. Nor did this 
>>> have any thing to do with Mike's opinion or Buddy's opinion. Again 
>>> it was the tone. I am getting blue from saying this so much. Nor 
>>> should I need to explain repect to you, to whom I assume are a grown 
>>> man. As someone said already, there are rules on this list. I don't 
>>> care if you don't like the show or not, take it apart bit by bit, 
>>> express your opinion all you want...but do it in a respectful 
>>> manner. Also again, this has nothing to do with that I did or not 
>>> recieve my guide from any particular school. I didn't know about the 
>>> show until someone posted about it today. Nor do I watch TV. I am 
>>> the moderator of this list, and do have the authority to tell 
>>> persons who have a bad tone to be nice. And again, if you have issues
with that, please do take it up with Marion, NAGDU president.
>>> Everyone since has discussed this show in a respectful manner, but 
>>> you seem to go and go on and on about this. Your more than welcome 
>>> to email me offlist, I can not call you.
>>> 
>>> I am suggesting that this be the last said about this. No I don't 
>>> mean the topic of the show, but your insistants that I am taking 
>>> away your right to an opinion.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator Sent with my IPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:21 PM, "Howard J. Levine" 
>>>> <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes if you like to call me that would be great my phone number is 
>>>> 718
>>>> 591 3678. 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha 
>>>> Drenth
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 4:15 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher
>>>> 
>>>> Howard,
>>>> As the list moderator, I have the responsibility to this and to 
>>>> each and every member. I did not tell you that you could not 
>>>> express your opinion. Nor did I take away your right as a blind 
>>>> person to express your thoughts. What I did ask for, is for the 
>>>> members of this list to be nice to each other. And yes Howard, it was
rude.
>>>> If you would like to continue to argue about this, we can surely do 
>>>> that offlist.
>>>> I was not out of line, but I do believe that you are. 
>>>> Take a deep breathe, step away from the computer and think about 
>>>> what you write before you send the message.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator Sent with my IPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 11:13 AM, "Howard J. Levine" 
>>>>> <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>
>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Come on Marsha no one was nasty, did GDF call you. We have a 
>>>>> right to our opinion's and please don't hold blind people to 
>>>>> higher stand then sighted people. It is tv show and we can have 
>>>>> opinion just like the rest of the country. I understand that this 
>>>>> show is being back byGDF and it is all about money. WE as blind 
>>>>> people have same rights rest of the country and don't need to kiss as
just so we can get a guide dog.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha 
>>>>> Drenth
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:47 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>> Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher
>>>>> 
>>>>> gentlemen, there was no reason to get nasty. Although you may not 
>>>>> likethe show. You need to keep your opinion subjective. Be nice!
>>>>> thank you, from your list moderator!y
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha drenth
>>>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Mike <blindndangerous at gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's called a comedy. Get that through your head. Heh.  I didn't 
>>>>>> get a chance to watch it, but I did read the article that the NFB 
>>>>>> published about it, and while I am not a fan of them all the time 
>>>>>> they had a lot of good points to say on the show.  SO I think 
>>>>>> I'll take them over you.
>>>>>> Mike. 
>>>>>>> On 2/24/2014 7:52 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: 
>>>>>>> Did anyone else watch this awful piece of garbage last night? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It had exactly one redeeming quality, and that was that it ended 
>>>>>>> eventually. For once, I agree with the critics. Blind guy or no, 
>>>>>>> this thing for one wasn't funny. For another, oh, where to begin?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Where did the guy's family think he went for a month? Or did he 
>>>>>>> just pick up a guide dog named Elvis at the corner store?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Veal cutlet? Really? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Locking your dog in the pantry and pretending he was lost? For real?

>>>>>>> C'mon. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OK, it was TV, but it was really bad TV. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh, and mom...midlife crisis much? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll give it another go, but i'm not very optimistic. 
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