[nagdu] Over There

[Star Gazer]

That's probably because people don't know how to speak in a language that
makes sense. I don't mean as in English or German, more of a definition of
terms. If you've ever written code or talked with atoddler you'll see this.
There are a lot of assumptions going on, and when the normal "over there"
doesn't work, the person then has to figure out what will. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristen via nagdu
Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2014 12:27 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Over There

I find it funny how people will say "over there" when they see we have guide
dogs.

I've had people say that it's easier to grab my arm and take me "over there"
than to give directions. My grandma is famous for that; I sometimes asked
her to guide me before I had Corvette because she was so bad at directions.
She is also losing her memory, so that may be part of why she thinks it's
still okay.
--
Kristen


 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Heaps" <craig.heaps at comcast.net
To: "Kristen" <kskristen at gmail.com>,"NAGDU Mailing List,the National
Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Thu, 5 Jun 2014
09:08:23 -0700
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Over There

That's terrific.  I know that on BART trains most of the empty seats are
"over there".  I know because people tell me that's where they are.

The other extreme is the person who, when I say, "Is there a seat available
for me and my guide dog?", grabs my arm and drags me "over there."

Craig and Chase

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristen via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 8:08 AM
Subject: [nagdu] Over There


I do not know who wrote this, but I bet we have all experienced the very
same thing. I found it on a Facebook group and thought it would be
appropriate here:

  "Over There"
  As my guide dog Shadow and I stood in line at the checkout of the River
City Market at CSUS, I asked the cashier what I considered a simple
question. "Where are the napkins please?"
  Her response was hurried, but sincere, "over there."
  Emerging from the light rail for the first time, I managed to catch the
attention of a passer-by. "Please sir, can you tell me where I might catch
bus 63?"
  A kind voice offered a pleasant response before disappearing into the
cacophony of the early afternoon, "You can catch it, Over there."
  So many things reside over there -- napkins, bus stops, pencils, pens,
clothing racks, department stores and even my shoes! A never ending supply
of important and indispensable items and locales all reside in this place
which is shrouded in mystery and intrigue. I stand in perplexed silence
after learning that something is over there. It is a place I have never
been and have no hope of finding on my own.
  My guide dog is quite skilled in finding chairs, stairs, elevators,
escalators, helping me cross streets, and can even find me the Diet Pepsi
display at Food Town; however, when I tell her to find "over there", her
little bottom hits the floor and a small whimper tells me that she is as
confused as I.
  We will not be going "over there" today. Over there has caused me abit of
vexation, a lot of confusion and, on occasion, made my heart race. I have
discovered that "over there" can be a dangerous place.
  One day while crossing a street, I heard a driver's irritated voice shout
out a warning of a truck bearing down on me from over there. 
Shadow
 artfully dodged the oncoming vehicle and pulled me to the safety of the
curb. Our hearts were both racing as we took a few moments to compose
ourselves.
  Close encounters with over there can be frightening experiences. Although
many blind people have wondered as to the exact location of, "over  there,",
few have dared to venture forth in an actual exploration of the  mysterious
place.
  One day, while standing in line at the supermarket, I asked the clerk
where I might find the aspirin. With a cheery smile in her voice, she
informed me that the aspirin was located, "over there."
  With a weary sigh, I decided that I would take the extra step that would
unravel the mystery, which had vexed my compatriots since the beginning of
time.
  Taking a deep breath, and attempting to look nonchalant, I smiled at the
clerk, "Where," I asked, "is over there?" I imagined the girl's shocked
expression. I felt her sharing condescending and concerned looks with her
fellows in the store. The silence grew palpable as they mulled the
possibility of allowing a blind person access to the forbidden land. She
had no choice; she would have to tell me how to find "over there!"
  I had won! Exhilaration swept through me as I waited in breathless
anticipation. A victorious smile crept to my lips, my hand tightened on  the
handle of Shadow's harness, we would soon be going over there!
  The clerk's voice reeked with resignation as the decision was made. "That
way," she said.
 --
 Kristen

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