[nagdu] Jogging with dog Guide

Thu Mar 27 15:44:22 UTC 2014

Tai,

I got the sports harness from On The Go, which became Pawpower 
Creations. I got the Laveau style harness from Pawpower, which is no 
longer in business. I haven't found a new source for gear, so I'm not 
sure what I will do for my next dog. A few people have recently 
mentioned sources for custom made harnesses, but I don't know anything 
about them.

Tami

On 03/26/2014 07:07 PM, Tai Blas wrote:
> Tami,
>
> Where did you get your two nylon harnesses?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Tai
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:47 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Jogging with dog Guide
>
> Tai,
>
> I use a nylon harness, of which I have two types customized for my poodle's
> build. If I'm on easy ground, like a track or really even turf, I use
> whichever one she is wearing as I use it when she is guiding at normal
> speed. If there are a lot of ups and downs in the ground, I may attach the
> leash to the metal loop at the back of the back strap to use as a more
> flexible handle. I can still feel her movements pretty well without
> hampering her movements or jerking on the harness by accident.
> I've never thought of getting a more flexible handle like the one Rox
> mentioned. D'oh!
>
> Tami
>
>
>
> On 03/26/2014 02:37 PM, Tai Blas wrote:
>> Rox and Tami:
>>
>> What types of harnesses did you used to run with your dogs?
>>
>> Tai Tomasi
>> J.D. Candidate, class of 2014
>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
>>
>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tami Jarvis <tami at poodlemutt.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tai,
>>>
>>> I was wondering if the way the harness works had something to do with
>>> why your trainer didn't want you using it for jogging. I have two
>>> different harness styles, one being an On The Go sports style made by
>>> Julie when she was doing it for a business. It has a lot of play in
>>> the handle and in how it allows for my poodle's style of motion, so I
>>> use that for jogging and cross country hiking and so on. The Laveau
>>> style harness from Pawpower Creations also works for those types of
>>> activity, but I'm not as comfortable because I worry about bumping
>>> her too much with the martingale if I'm not in sync. That may not be
>>> the harness, though. /smile/ Every now and then, I catch myself
>>> jogging on the sidewalk because my dog wants to go fast. I think
>>> that's asking for trouble, the nature of sidewalks being what it is,
>>> so I try to keep myself from doing that. It's kinda fun, though...
>>> /shrug/
>>>
>>> I had to get comfortable jogging without sight before I tried it with
>>> Mitzi, although I was practicing while she was running her youthful
>>> energy off, and she thought it was great fun when I ran, too. /smile/
>>> If I can, I like running solo with her to help me orient with her
>>> bells and/or squeaky ball. I've also jogged with her on leash and
>>> with her in harness. I keep threatening to find a nice track for
>>> regular jogging, but am too lazy to work out the route... So much for
>>> my dedication to exercise. /lol/
>>>
>>> Funny. I remember some startled silence when I first mentioned
>>> jogging with the guide dog, but I didn't notice an actual
>>> controversy... Then again, since I started out by training my own
>>> guide dog, I learned to ignore controversy over anything guide
>>> dog-related in a hurry. /lol/
>>>
>>> Have fun!
>>>
>>> Tami
>>>
>>>> On 03/26/2014 11:41 AM, Tai Blas wrote:
>>>> Tracy,
>>>> I have heard that the traditional guiding harness can hurt the dogs back
> when jogging. I do not think it allows for the type of natural lateral
> motion a dog needs while running. This might be something with which a
> different style harness, possibly a nylon harness with a softer backstrap,
> could assist.
>>>>
>>>> Tai Tomasi
>>>> J.D. Candidate, class of 2014
>>>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>>>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical
> errors.
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:32 PM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If your dog already can guide you at a fast pace, why not try jogging
> with her in harness?  It seems more reliable to me than trying to get her to
> leash guide at a fast pace.
>>>>> I'm not a runner, but, if I wanted to try it, I'd try, at least to
> begin with, in a relatively clear area, like a jogging track, where there
> should be less stuff for me to fall over.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 2:19 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Jogging with dog Guide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello, all. I know this is a controversial topic, and I do not want to
> start a flame war, but I would like to hear from people who have jogged with
> their dogs. I have spoken with instructors at my school, and although they
> do not recommend running with a dog, they did say it can be done as long as
> I do not run with my dog in harness. My dog does not typically leash guide,
> so I will need to work with her on that skill.  She does leash guide
> informally in some situations, and I realize that if we are running, I
> cannot expect her to guide me flawlessly as she would do in harness. I know
> that I will probably trip and fall, but it is worth the risk to me. My dog
> loves to go fast. In fact, our walking speed is nearly a jog at times. There
> have been several instances where we have needed to run through airports to
> catch airplanes.  In those cases, she has guided me perfectly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I Recently read about Kerry Kuck, a graduate of guide dogs for the
> blind who ran with his dog. For those that do this successfully, what types
> of leashes or other harnesses do you use? Any input is appreciated. Again, I
> would respectfully ask that you refrain from posting overcritical responses
> on  this controversial issue. Many people would not feel comfortable with,
> or support, running with a guide dog. That said, I know many users out there
> who do this and am hoping to hear from them regarding tips  and techniques.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tai Tomasi
>>>>>> J.D. Candidate, class of 2014
>>>>>> Email: tai.tomasi8 at gmail.com
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical
> errors.
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