[nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well

Thu May 15 00:44:44 UTC 2014

Wesley, just because things are a certain way for you does not that they are
that way for everyone. Did you get to the message about the conditions in
the laundry room before you replied? If not, you might want to consider
reading the entire thread before replying.
I have a friend who works at the Lighthouse in Seattle. I don't remember
what she does, but, whatever it is, it is not safe for her guide dog to be
with her. They have a kennel area for guide dogs. Of course, this is a
little different because the employer is more prepared for the situation,
but the point still remains that our dogs cannot always be with us we work
if the environment is dangerous for a dog.
Barb, you need to tell the school what is going on. Don't lie. And, yes,
lying includes withholding information. What's going to happen when the
problem escalates after you get the dog, and, when it is really bad, either
the school somehow finds out or you finally decide to get them involved? You
should not be afraid to work with the school. Your boss should listen to
you, but, sadly, sometimes, people won't listen unless they think that the
person telling has knowledge and authority. Maybe you could talk to the
school and work out what you are going to tell your boss. Then, you could
take someone from the school with you when you talk to your boss. You could
do the talking, but, if your boss tries to say that you don't know what you
are talking about or something like that, the person from the school could
back you up. Also, is your boss more afraid for the people or for the dog? I
highly doubt that a guide dog would growl or bark at someone or try to bite.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Wesley. via nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:06 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well

Okay, I have a couple of questions. First, what makes them think that they
have the right to expect a service dog to be crated at all? Second, what
makes them think that they have the right to separate you from your service
dog? 

I'm an IT professional and my dog is trained to stay quietly under the desk
where I am working. When I move around the office my dog goes with me. I
wasn't aware that there was any law allowing an employer to require any
other arrangements. 

Wesley. 

-------- Original message --------
From: Darla Rogers via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Date:05/14/2014  3:21 AM  (GMT-07:00) 
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
Subject: Re: [nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well 

Dear Barb,

could you please refresh my memory as to exactly where you work?  I doubt my
answers/advice would be better, but I would rather have the whole picture.
With Empathy,
Darla

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of via nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:30 AM
To: Name, Full
Subject: [nagdu] They want my guide dog to be in a stair well

Hi,
I will be having my interview for my guide dog school in a couple of weeks.
I have a new boss, and when he found out that I was looking into getting a
service dog, he said I could put him in the back stair way. that is a fire
exit and the fire department would give them a big fine if they came in and
found a dog crated in the back. The best place is right outside the door to
the laundry room where I do much of my work, I would pass the dog many times
in the day, plus I can keep track of what is going on. I know the big
problem with that spot is that it is in clear view of the public, in fact if
someone wanted to they could go up to the crate. I get it, the safety thing
and all, and that even if I put a nice cover over the crate, it will not be
in keeping with how they run things. I do believe that fore the most part
everyone would leave the dog along, but I guess all's you need is one dummy
and everything is turned upside down. 
I feel I should talk to the gal when she comes to do the interview, and see
what she has to say, but I could blow all my chances of getting a dog
because of it. 
I just don't know how to do this. 

Barb
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