[nagdu] Worst day of my life

Thu Oct 9 22:12:42 UTC 2014

Amen, Cindy! I imagin he has his hands full as well as his mind! Sometimes, 
anything can happen and you just have to plug through it and go forward.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cindy Ray via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "'L Gwizdak'" <leg1950 at cox.net>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National 
Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life


>I just feel that the discussion about Barry's dog, except to express
> sympathy, should not be held now. I think he needs our loves and support, 
> to
> know we are with him, and not analysis of what anything means. Later maybe
> as the pain heals he will want to say more. He has already said more. I
> would hope we do not eventually alienate Barry, and I would appreciate the
> kindly words of support that have already been uttered here. Maybe I'm 
> being
> too conservative about this? I don't think so.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of L Gwizdak via
> nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 2:44 PM
> To: Star Gazer; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users; 'Aleeha Dudley'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life
>
> To me, "started attacking" would mean a new behavior and NOT an on-going
> one.
>
> Lyn
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Aleeha Dudley'" <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>; "'NAGDU Mailing 
> List,the
>
> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life
>
>
>> It won't, though if it had been me, I'd have done a
>> few things differently.
>> First, I'd not "get rid" of a dog that wasn't aggressive in favor of one
>> that was. I especially wouldn't do it if the nonaggressive dog wasn't
>> mine.
>> I might keep both dogs assuming that I could keep them separate at all
>> times. I'd also never let the aggressive dog near a baby.
>> All this being said, I do wonder if school ownership hurt Barry in this
>> case. If the dog was legally his, he could have done whatever it was he
>> was
>> going to do without school input. I'm concerned that he asked the school
>> what to do after his grandson was mauled, he didn't tell them.  I'm also
>> concerned with the level of support he got when his dog attacked his 
>> son's
>> dog. Barry mentions "started attacking" so this was an ongoing problem. 
>> It
>> wasn't just a terrible day that came out of nowhere.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Aleeha Dudley [mailto:blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:17 PM
>> To: Star Gazer; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users
>> Cc: Barry Vaughn
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Worst day of my life
>>
>> Let's not play the blame game here. Something horribly tragic happened,
>> what's done is done, sitting here and processing why everything happened
>> the
>> way it did will not help. The point is that a dog, a guide dog, a dog 
>> that
>> this gentleman relies on for his mobility, and a dog he has developed a
>> significant partnership with, attacked his own grandson. He'sgot to be
>> going
>> through a lot of rough emotions right now. Yelling at him for decisions 
>> he
>> made will not help the situation.
>>
>> Aleeha Dudley and seeing eye dog Dallas Vice President, Ohio Association
>> of
>> blind students Blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com "The wind of Heaven is that
>> which
>> blows between a horse's ears." Arabian proverb
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>            Why did you get rid of the other dog when yours was the
>>> aggressor? And, why did you let your dog and your grandson occupy the
>>> same space? And, last but not least, where was your son in all this?
>>> You got rid of *his* dog without any input from him, and then the both
>>> of you allowed a baby near a dog with a known history of aggression.
>>> At the risk of piling on, you didn't tell your school that you'd put
>>> your dog down, you asked. Had it been me, that dog would have gone to
>>> the nearest emergency vet and been put down last night.  I can
>>> understand maybe keeping your dog, but I can't understand your son's
>>> just allowing you to get rid of his dog, and I don't understand either
>>> of you allowing the baby in close proximity with your dog.
>>> I don't understand where the papa bear instincts were on this, which
>>> leads me to wonder if your school has ownership of your dog?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barry
>>> Vaughn via nagdu
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 10:10 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Worst day of my life
>>>
>>> Let me catch you up to spped on what has happened with my guide these
>>> last few months.  Back in April I started keeping my sons dog.  At
>>> first my guide and my sons dog got along great playing together and
>>> such.  Last month my guide started attacking the other dog.. So I got
>>> rid of the other dog and everything settled down.  Then last night the
>>> most awful thing happened.  My ten month old grandsong was crawling in
>>> the living room and Jake attacked him biting him real bad in the face.
>>> The bites missed the eye but he had two real bad wounds on the
>>> forehead and jaw.  I just talked to my school and they recommended
>>> that I put him down.  The county animal shelter is picking him up this
>> morning for a ten day quarrentine.
>>>
>>> Please pray for me and my family.
>>>
>>> Barry and guide Jake
>>>
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