[nagdu] Drop Offs

Thu Oct 16 03:10:16 UTC 2014

Very well stated, Julie, and I think you took a more direct way of saying it
better, so people will understand your position whether or not they agree
with it.

Sadly, being lost is very stressful and while I didn't train at an NFB
center, I worked with a more-than-competent instructor who not only told
mobility but taught orientation, too.
Darla & Happy Huck

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Pawpower Pack
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Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 7:21 AM
To: Julie J.; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Drop Offs

Julie, 
This is so well said!  Thank you!  I feel the exact way about drop offs. 
I also travel to unfamiliar areas both locally and across the country.  I
had better know how to get myself unlost, and doing drop offs has changed
the way I feel about doing that, and gave me more confidence. 

 Rox and the kitchen Bitches: 
Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
Pawpower4me at gmail.com
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> On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:54 AM, "Julie J. via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
> 
> I've taken the bus home on the last run of the day and the bus driver
decided to take a short cut.  I ended up getting off the bus around the
corner from where I normally did, but he didn't mention it and I didn't
notice for a few blocks.  Of course by that time I felt pretty lost.
> 
> I've been dropped off from a cab at the wrong address.  I learned to ask
questions about my exact location before getting out after that.
> 
> I've left a building by what I thought was the same door I came in.  I
made the street turns by where I thought I was until I came to an odd
intersection I had never been to before.
> 
> I do not have GPS or an iPhone and I don't carry my iPad with me.
> 
> I went through blindness training that included drop offs throughout the
training.  In the beginning it was stressful, but still challenging in a
positive way.  Sort of like finals I guess.  They are a big deal, but when
you finish them you feel really good, accomplished, I guess.  By the end of
my training the drop offs were no longer a big deal.  I had learned that I
could figure it out, no matter what.  I had the skills, ability to work
through the problem and the level head to do what I needed to do.  that's
the point really.
> 
> The drop offs aren't about how well you can use your cane or dog or how
quickly you can get back.  It's really about knowing in your heart that
there's nothing to fear.  I was definitely afraid of getting lost before
then.  sometimes that would cause me to not go to a new place alone or to
delay going until I could do recon on the place.   I'm not afraid of getting
lost anymore.  It's not fun and I would certainly prefer to not be lost, but
it doesn't prevent me from trying new things.
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Raven Tolliver via nagdu
> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:46 PM
> To: debby phillips ; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Drop Offs
> 
> Debby,
> I agree completely. Drop-offs are not realistic at all because I have
> the fortune of never being dumped out of a car or getting off the bus
> at a mystery location. Even when I visit an unfamiliar area, I do a
> bit of trip planning to learn more about the particular destination
> and the nearby streets. And with GPS aps and things of that nature, it
> is rare that a person is completely lost.
> 
>> On 8/30/14, debby phillips via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Larry, I'd be one of those that would not like doing dropoffs.
>> First of all, I don't think they're that realistic.  Most people
>> (whether they'll admit it or not) go to certain places, and
>> that's where they go.  Sure, we all visit unfamiliar places, but
>> if we have had any good instruction at all, we know what sorts of
>> questions to ask to get where we need to go.  Doing our solos is
>> stressful enough for me.  (Grin).  But hey, if you like dropoffs,
>> you should have the chance to do them.  Seriously, unless I live
>> somewhere (and I don't live in Morristown), it's kind of a waste
>> of my time to get totally oriented to the town.  Even if I did, I
>> won't be there for another ten years (I hope) and would have
>> forgotten everything anyway.  JMO, though.    Debby and Miss
>> Neena
>> 
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