[nagdu] Using a dog and raising one?

[Tami Jarvis]

Interesting. It suddenly occurs to me that I'm kind of an idiot. For 
some reason, I've been trying to figure out how to have both the working 
poodle and the one in training on the same side... I'm just starting 
preliminary training to just walk the two poodles at the same time while 
using the cane. I have them in their walking harnesses, going out in 
front (mostly) on long-ish leashes. We'll see how well they learn to be 
in sync before I decide how much time and effort I want to put into 
working Mitzi with Loki along to learn. I'm fairly certain I won't be 
doing double poodles for indoor access training. The very thought turns 
my nerves to jelly. /lol/ Loki's learning style is a lot like Mitzi's, 
so while I think he could learn some things from her, he can also learn 
a lot on his own with me to reinforce his clever choices.

It might be different raising a puppy for a program while working a 
guide, since they have certain requirements for taking the pup 
"everywhere." I've always wondered how that works for guide dog users 
who do it, so I'll be interested to find out.

Tami

On 10/16/2014 09:03 AM, The Pawpower Pack via nagdu wrote:
> Hi Raven,
> I have done this several times, depending on my dogs.  I find that with the herding dogs I've raised and trained— Bc's, Aussies, GSD's etc, they do best if they have a more experienced dog with whom to work and model their behavior off of.
> I have my dog working on the left and the SDIT on the right attached with a belt leash, just in case.  I first practice on foot, then bribe my friends into letting me practice in their car or van, and then once we have a groove down, I take it into primetime.
> When I first moved to New Orleans, I was working a golden and training a BC, and had them everywhere with me until gradually the bc took over.  If you are going to do this, both of your dogs need to be almost invisable, very well behaved and work together with you in a seemless triad.  It takes lots of practice, and I know Meghan who was on this list has also done this with gsds.
> I did not do this when training Soleil, as this method did not match her learning style.
> Good luck! And welcome to the dirty south!
>
>   Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 10:43 AM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>> Surprise, I have a question!
>> Upon graduating college this winter, I will be sadly departing West
>> Michigan for the South. This provides an opportunity for me to be in a
>> puppy-raising region for GEB, and so I will apply to raise a German
>> shepherd pup. My question is how on God's green earth have people who
>> use guide dogs worked out using their dog and socializing a pup? I
>> understand that in some cases, I could just cane it while I work with
>> the pup. But there are some instances in which using a cane would not
>> be ideal for me personally. Areas crowded with furniture or bustling
>> with people for example.
>> I also think it would be very interesting to get into a cab or ride
>> with not one, but two dogs!
>> Essentially, traveling and navigating are a concern with the additional dog.
>> Suggestions?
>> --
>> Raven
>> "if God didn't make it, don't eat it." - John B. Symes, D.V.M.
>> http://dogtorj.com
>>
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