[nagdu] off leash recall and family was Re: nagdu Digest, Vol 118, Issue 12
Tracy Carcione
carcione at access.net
Mon Jan 12 15:00:05 UTC 2015
In my experience, the occasional treat works wonders for off-leash recall,
i.e., once in a while, when I call the dog and he comes, I give him a
kibble, especially if he comes when he was doing something else interesting.
Tracy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aleeha Dudley via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Buddy Brannan" <buddy at brannan.name>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the National
Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Chenelle Hancock" <filmchenelle1977 at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 9:04 AM
Subject: [nagdu] off leash recall and family was Re: nagdu Digest, Vol
118,Issue 12
>I definitely know how it is to have family who won’t listen to you. You
>have to keep the rules firm, even if your family doesn’t like it. Make sure
>your dog obeys come reliably when on leash before you even consider letting
>him off leash. Even then, start inside and do not let other family members
>catch your dog. Then, move outside, but again do not allow family members
>to take him and, even more importantly, do not chase him. Make it clear
>that you do not want to play his games, but praise like crazy when he comes
>back.
> Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas
> Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users
> Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
> Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
> Email: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com <mailto:blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles
> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
> blindness is not what holds you back.
> “The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian
> proverb
>
>> On Jan 12, 2015, at 7:50 AM, Buddy Brannan via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I’m seeing a couple things here.
>>
>> First, your dog’s playing a game with you. Which may be all right, but if
>> you call him to come, chasing him all over the yard is probably not
>> acceptable behavior. Work on the recall more, starting out on leash. That
>> he’s coming to someone else and not you tells me that someone else is
>> making coming to them more fun than coming to you. It’s up to you to
>> change that dynamic.
>>
>> That’s really the more general issue. Your dog is your responsibility.
>> Not your anunt’s. Getting your dog to the vet if you believe it needs to
>> go is also your responsibility. Not your aunt’s. If that means you need
>> to transport some other way than relying on your know it all aunt, so be
>> it. You need to do what you need to do. Your dog, your rules, your life
>> at stake. Yours. Not hers. Where your dog is concerned, your word is law.
>> Simple as that.
>>
>> As to weight, I wouldn’t worry over much. If you haven’t had to let out
>> his harness, he’s probably fine, and probably even still close to his
>> weight when you left school. Still, if you want to double check, do so by
>> all means. More important than weight, however, is body condition. You
>> should feel ribs, though you of course don’t want ribs sticking out. You
>> should also feel a definite waistline.
>>
>> Please understand I’m not trying to come down on you here. The thing is,
>> we all know what it’s like to have family members, or well-meaning
>> friends, who are helpfully not being very helpful, or not respecting
>> boundaries.
>>
>> Also, yes, definitely be sure that gates are closed. Believe me. I lost a
>> dog for a little while a time or two because some idiot left a gate open.
>> Sometimes, that idiot wasn’t even me. I was young and stupid. I am older
>> and stupid.
>>
>> —
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: 814-860-3194
>> Mobile: 814-431-0962
>> Email: buddy at brannan.name
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 12, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Chenelle Hancock via nagdu
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> This is Chenelle,
>>> I was playing with my guy dog in the backyard after relieving him on
>>> Friday afternoon. I took him off leash to let him run in the snow. He
>>> then went to the front of the yard and start playing in the snow I
>>> called him then I ran to the front of the yard he ran to the back of the
>>> yard I chased him around he went to my ear. I contacted GDB and they
>>> tell me it was a good thing that he went towhen he was awfully. It would
>>> be a different story entirely if he did not go to anyone while he was
>>> off leash. So I said I would close the gate from now on when we're
>>> playing in the snow. They thought that was a good idea. I wondered if
>>> anyone had the same problem? And what did you do about it? Also what do
>>> you do about the fact that you have a new guy and it's your first dog
>>> and he's grownstill three months ago he was 57 pounds on wanting to take
>>> into the vet however it's five minutes up the road and a car and my aunt
>>> for the like me won't take me. Because she think she's an expert on all
>>> dogs including guide dogs. She has no certification and working with the
>>> Blind loan specialized dogs for the blind. I am and if you to her more
>>> than once that you can't go by visual alone I want to know what it says
>>> on the scaleso I can put it into his medical records and inform the
>>> school on what his waiters. Because when I called in on Friday they
>>> asked you what was his way and I gave them last week that I had from
>>> October which is 57.
>>> This before he started growing some more. He just turned two. He could
>>> still fit into his harness and I have a had to go up a notch on his
>>> harness as of yet. My ankles and looks upThe weight of an average size
>>> guy dog Labrador retriever. She says is between 60 to 85 pounds. I let
>>> her know that the school has a particular way that they want him to be
>>> at. She ignores it and ignorant fashion. So I think I'm going to have to
>>> catch the bus to go get him wait because she's not cooperating. Or
>>> respecting my wishes. So does anyone have any suggestions on what Ican
>>> do to deal with this situation between her and I. He listens to me! He's
>>> in integrated into the family yes! However, she's not the mother I am.
>>> Thank you so much I really appreciate it sincerely, Chenelle
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jan 12, 2015, at 7:00 AM, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org wrote:
>>>>
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Re: peanut butter dog cookies (Martha Reaney)
>>>> 2. Re: peanut butter dog cookies (Debby Phillips)
>>>> 3. new Facebook group for guide dog users in Texas
>>>> (Elizabeth Campbell)
>>>> 4. Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (cape.amanda at gmail.com)
>>>> 5. Re: New Member (Raven Tolliver)
>>>> 6. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Raven Tolliver)
>>>> 7. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Tina Thomas)
>>>> 8. guidedog and fruit (John Sanders)
>>>> 9. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Larry D Keeler)
>>>> 10. Re: guidedog and fruit (Raven Tolliver)
>>>> 11. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Sherry Gomes)
>>>> 12. Re: Stinky feet!!! (Raven Tolliver)
>>>> 13. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Marianne Denning)
>>>> 14. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Cindy Ray)
>>>> 15. Re: thoughts on Pilot's training (Raven Tolliver)
>>>> 16. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Craig Heaps)
>>>> 17. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> (cape.amanda at gmail.com)
>>>> 18. Re: Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Debby Phillips)
>>>> 19. Re: guidedog and fruit (Debby Phillips)
>>>> 20. Germany was:Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog (Lisa)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 07:11:57 -0600
>>>> From: "Martha Reaney" <mreaney at comcast.net>
>>>> To: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>>>> National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, "Debby
>>>> Phillips"
>>>> <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] peanut butter dog cookies
>>>> Message-ID: <7DA6AB3F7B6C49CEB61FC518E5A9179D at DDWZ2VF1>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> I seem to be losing lots of in-bound emails. I'll have to check my junk
>>>> mail, etc.
>>>> So, apologies to anyone who has written to me and not gotten a reply.
>>>> Yes, I think that you can substitute whole wheat flour for any wheat /
>>>> all purpose flour. Rice flour is also trendy these days, but, I have
>>>> no experience using it.
>>>>
>>>> Martha
>>>> IL
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 07:26:17 -0800
>>>> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>, semisweetdebby at gmail.com,
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] peanut butter dog cookies
>>>> Message-ID: <54b2962b.6545440a.222c.03b5 at mx.google.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Julie. Good idea! I still haven't had time to look up
>>>> where Milkbones are made, yesterday was a busy day. Yes,
>>>> Seahawks! (Grin). Go Green Bay! Have a wonderful day everybody!
>>>> Peace, Neena and DEBBY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:09:56 -0600
>>>> From: "Elizabeth Campbell" <batescampbell at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NFB of Texas Members'" <members at lists.nfbtx.org>
>>>> Cc: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] new Facebook group for guide dog users in Texas
>>>> Message-ID: <03a501d02df3$b7bacd40$273067c0$@gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I started a Facebook group for anyone interested in guide dogs and with
>>>> helping us move forward with plans to start a Texas Association of
>>>> Guide
>>>> Dog Users devision.
>>>>
>>>> The group is called Guide Dog Users' Committee of the National
>>>> Federation of
>>>> the Blind of Texas.
>>>>
>>>> I also would like to welcome anyone who does not have a guide dog but
>>>> wants
>>>> to learn more about working with a dog and about activities on the
>>>> state and
>>>> national levels.
>>>>
>>>> Here is the link to the group.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/916243351733637?view=permalink
>>>> <https://m.facebook.com/groups/916243351733637?view=permalink&id=91624631173
>>>> 3341> &id=916246311733341
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Liz Campbell
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:15:42 -0500
>>>> From: cape.amanda at gmail.com
>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <51473C1B-B4D0-483C-9FBC-1DA212F82BA3 at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>> dog too?
>>>>
>>>> Amanda
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:20:19 -0500
>>>> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>> Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] New Member
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CACQ+kot+u8atozsb54+kvkRK=-zGH4yB8zYfuck6PhPe1ZY3Uw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> Anne,
>>>> A warm welcome from North Carolina!
>>>> My name is Raven. I'm a Michigan native, a recent college graduate,
>>>> and a natural health enthusiast. I am currently working my first
>>>> guide, a 4.5-year-old male golden. I have experience as a dog training
>>>> assistant , though I currently work as an academic editor.
>>>> You will definitely enjoy this list. It is full of good info and
>>>> engaging discussion.
>>>> --
>>>> Raven
>>>> Stop being a victim, and choose to be a victor.
>>>>
>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/15, Aleeha Dudley via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Welcome to the list! I am Aleeha Dudley with my first guide from The
>>>>> Seeing
>>>>> Eye, a yellow lab named Dallas. I hope you have many great years with
>>>>> your
>>>>> pup and that you find this list very useful.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas
>>>>> Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students
>>>>> Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio
>>>>> Email: blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com <mailto:blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
>>>>> The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the
>>>>> characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the
>>>>> expectations of blind people, because low expectations create
>>>>> obstacles
>>>>> between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want;
>>>>> blindness is not what holds you back.
>>>>> "The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse's ears." -
>>>>> Arabian
>>>>> proverb
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 6:58 PM, Anne Currie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is Anne and I've just recently joined this list. I have a
>>>>>> black
>>>>>> lab named Wyatt, my first guide dog. We were matched in June 2011. I
>>>>>> look
>>>>>> forward to getting to know you and learning as much as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 6
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:21:39 -0500
>>>> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: cape.amanda at gmail.com, "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CACQ+kotuX0S7X4mQO24PEyx2gw1dzno0_VB_RXTyq-3+zNPF0Q at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> Yes, of course! There are possibly some schools out there that don't
>>>> permit this, but most of them provide dogs to clients with dogs, cats,
>>>> and so on.
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/15, Amanda Cape via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>>> dog
>>>>> too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amanda
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ravend729%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raven
>>>> Stop being a victim, and choose to be a victor.
>>>>
>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 7
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:32:33 -0800
>>>> From: "Tina Thomas" <judotina48kg at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <cape.amanda at gmail.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <02d101d02df6$e0d19260$a274b720$@gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> Hello Amanda- Welcome to the list. To answer your question. Yes, guide
>>>> dog
>>>> programs do allow you to have family pets with your guide dog.
>>>> Tina
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape
>>>> via
>>>> nagdu
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 3:16 PM
>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>> dog
>>>> too?
>>>>
>>>> Amanda
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 8
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:11:27 -0500
>>>> From: "John Sanders" <starmy22 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] guidedog and fruit
>>>> Message-ID: <9743BBACEDE34450929B1826693C6B3C at JohnSandersPC>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have a question: I wsa eating some fruit earlier today.
>>>> I was eating the tomatos that are grapes.
>>>> And I had made the mistake of dropping one.
>>>> I went to pick it up, but, I?m assuming my had gotten it before I could
>>>> pick it up.
>>>> can that type of fruit make my dog sick?
>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> John and the always beutifull, always gorgeous Mollie
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 9
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:17:28 -0500
>>>> From: "Larry D Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>> To: <cape.amanda at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <23785EAC36C44A5EBCB7BB8915219102 at yourec0540d030>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Although yyou have to knpow how you're pet will react to other
>>>> dogs and
>>>> they'll give you advice on how to introduce them to your pet. I have
>>>> another
>>>> dog and some birds as well and everything works out well.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Amanda Cape via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 6:15 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>>> dog
>>>>> too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amanda
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 10
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:02:14 -0500
>>>> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: John Sanders <starmy22 at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guidedog and fruit
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CACQ+kosX_Ybgz7OR26yuVT3CHOc4=0LRRFtBS-qZ=yAbPhOaVQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>> Tomatoes are not good for dogs, but one grape tomato will not hurt her.
>>>> Work with your new pup on scavenging. Try to incorporate it into your
>>>> obedience routine, or just practice in general.
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/15, John Sanders via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I have a question: I wsa eating some fruit earlier today.
>>>>> I was eating the tomatos that are grapes.
>>>>> And I had made the mistake of dropping one.
>>>>> I went to pick it up, but, I'm assuming my had gotten it before I
>>>>> could pick
>>>>> it up.
>>>>> can that type of fruit make my dog sick?
>>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> John and the always beutifull, always gorgeous Mollie
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ravend729%40gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raven
>>>> Stop being a victim, and choose to be a victor.
>>>>
>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 11
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:13:35 -0700
>>>> From: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <cape.amanda at gmail.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <042001d02e0d$5ffe0580$1ffa1080$@gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> I can only speak for GDB, but yes, many students/grads have pet dogs or
>>>> cats
>>>> or other pets in the home.
>>>>
>>>> Sherry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape
>>>> via
>>>> nagdu
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:16 PM
>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>> dog
>>>> too?
>>>>
>>>> Amanda
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 12
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:15:15 -0500
>>>> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Abigail Marie Bolling <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing
>>>> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Stinky feet!!!
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CACQ+kovVW0NS-_BWFQUa6ZpY30WJWAgru7mWNR+_UgXq0-2Ymw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> Daryl,
>>>> The following are safe to mix with warm water to wash your pup's paws,
>>>> and they will also help the smell.
>>>> White vinegar or apple cider vinegar will not only get rid of the
>>>> smell, but also destroy any bacteria or microbes creating the smell.
>>>> Feel free to soak the boots in a mixture of 1/3 cup vinegar and 1/2 to
>>>> 1 cup water.
>>>> liquid castile soap by Dr. Bronner's or Desert Essence, or Dawn dish
>>>> soap are good too. Liquid castile soap comes fragranted with essential
>>>> oils. You can get lavender, tea tree, or peppermint. I have all three!
>>>> Hth.
>>>> Raven
>>>> Stop being a victim, and choose to be a victor.
>>>>
>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/8/15, Abigail Marie Bolling via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> there are times Jada has really bad foot odor!
>>>>> I soak a washcloth in warm water and wet her feet. Then I pour some
>>>>> soap in my hands and lather them. After that it's really fun for her
>>>>> to let me put her paw in a tub of warm water to rinse. She fights a
>>>>> little, but the tub/bucket has never tipped over for me.
>>>>> The other thing I was tought to do was after coming in from a walk to
>>>>> take a paper towel and some warm water and wipe her feet off,
>>>>> especially in the winter months with all of the salt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/8/15, Steven Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Dogs' sweat through their feet, so it is not unusual that her feet
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> stink especially if she is wearing boots much of the time. You may
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> rest her from wearing the boots s dogs generally can adapt very
>>>>>> easily to
>>>>>> temperatures, and yes, even cold temps. The smell can be almost
>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>> to get out of the boots, and you may need to get a new set after this
>>>>>> winter
>>>>>> season is over. I generally soak them in vinegar and then rinse and
>>>>>> wash
>>>>>> them...it helps a lot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl
>>>>>> Marie
>>>>>> via
>>>>>> nagdu
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 1:00 PM
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Stinky feet!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jenny's feet really really really stink! It started in NYC, and has
>>>>>> continued for the past week since we got back, but she lives in her
>>>>>> PAWZ
>>>>>> booties when we are out and about, which seems to have locked in the
>>>>>> smell.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My question is this:
>>>>>> It is far too cold to give her a bath here, and she hates getting wet
>>>>>> anyway. What is the best way to wash her feet? I am thinking about
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> wet cloth, but am not sure what to use in addition to water? I am
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> familiar with doggie shampoos or other solutions, and would love any
>>>>>> input!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Daryl
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Abigail Bolling
>>>>> Ohio Association Of Blind Students: Treasurer
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: Abigail.me.bolling94 at gmail.com and violingirl30794 at hotmail.com
>>>>> Phone: 513-258-5043
>>>>> "Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing
>>>>> like no one is listening, and live like it's heaven on earth." William
>>>>> Purkey
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 13
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:16:51 -0500
>>>> From: Marianne Denning <marianne at denningweb.com>
>>>> To: Sherry Gomes <sherriola at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CANZu-JgM-ppACSkkQsLBaNHk4mD-6N0Sd1fmJvHdedoBH5nhJg at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>>
>>>> I have had a pet when I trained with my last 2 dogs. I don't think it
>>>> is a problem as long as you have space and your pet will adjust to a
>>>> dog in the home.
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/15, Sherry Gomes via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I can only speak for GDB, but yes, many students/grads have pet dogs
>>>>> or
>>>>> cats
>>>>> or other pets in the home.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sherry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape
>>>>> via
>>>>> nagdu
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:16 PM
>>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>>> dog
>>>>> too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amanda
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>> (513) 607-6053
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 14
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 20:18:29 -0600
>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'Marianne Denning'" <marianne at denningweb.com>, "'NAGDU Mailing
>>>> List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <01b801d02e0e$0f1a0e10$2d4e2a30$@gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> I have done this several times.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Ray
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marianne
>>>> Denning
>>>> via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 8:17 PM
>>>> To: Sherry Gomes; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
>>>> Dog
>>>> Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>
>>>> I have had a pet when I trained with my last 2 dogs. I don't think it
>>>> is a problem as long as you have space and your pet will adjust to a
>>>> dog in the home.
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/11/15, Sherry Gomes via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> I can only speak for GDB, but yes, many students/grads have pet dogs
>>>>> or
>>>>> cats
>>>>> or other pets in the home.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sherry
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda Cape
>>>>> via
>>>>> nagdu
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:16 PM
>>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>>> dog
>>>>> too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amanda
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>> (513) 607-6053
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 15
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:21:45 -0500
>>>> From: Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: Larry D Keeler <lkeeler at comcast.net>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] thoughts on Pilot's training
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> <CACQ+kouO0FVwmgSjr_dB9iDkr=UntgAbXzAOKSkHR5wb4CiubQ at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/8/15, Larry D Keeler via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> Think I had the same trainer you did. And no, we weren't encouraged to
>>>>> correct with extremely hard corrections iether.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Chantel via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 11:55 AM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] thoughts on Pilot's training
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wanted to give my two cents on Pilot's training, since I am a Pilot
>>>>>> graduate in between dogs at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First of all, Pilot does not encourage us to yank *rreally* hard on
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> dogs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had the same trainer John had, and she told me that since Motley
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> young, he would test me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why I said that maybe Molly was eating snow to test John, and
>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>
>>>>>> confused you, John, I apologize.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chantel.
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Raven
>>>> Stop being a victim, and choose to be a victor.
>>>>
>>>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 16
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:28:33 -0800
>>>> From: "Craig Heaps" <craig.heaps at comcast.net>
>>>> To: <cape.amanda at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <9199B15D690A412B883B381F70F7E18F at CraigPC>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> Guide Dogs for the Blind didn't have any problem with our pet standard
>>>> poodle. In fact, because we live close, they let us introduce the dogs
>>>> to
>>>> each other at their campus during my training. The trainer gave us
>>>> great
>>>> advice as we watch the dogs play with each other.
>>>>
>>>> Our dogs are great friends and play together a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Craig and Chase
>>>> craig.heaps at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Amanda Cape via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 3:15 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>>> dog
>>>>> too?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amanda
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/craig.heaps%40comcast.net
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 17
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 21:42:54 -0500
>>>> From: cape.amanda at gmail.com
>>>> To: Craig Heaps <craig.heaps at comcast.net>
>>>> Cc: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>> Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <9E74E636-2671-4B93-9103-81DE88CDDE96 at gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>
>>>> Thanks guys.
>>>>
>>>> Amanda
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 9:28 PM, Craig Heaps <craig.heaps at comcast.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Guide Dogs for the Blind didn't have any problem with our pet standard
>>>>> poodle. In fact, because we live close, they let us introduce the
>>>>> dogs to each other at their campus during my training. The trainer
>>>>> gave us great advice as we watch the dogs play with each other.
>>>>>
>>>>> Our dogs are great friends and play together a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig and Chase
>>>>> craig.heaps at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amanda Cape via nagdu"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 3:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>>>> dog too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/craig.heaps%40comcast.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 18
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:59:38 -0800
>>>> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>>>> To: cape.amanda at gmail.com, "NAGDU Mailing List, the National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <54b346bc.4345440a.71d9.3482 at mx.google.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>> Hi Amanda, I can't answer for every school, but Seeing Eye has no
>>>> problem with it. They just want to know so when they're doing
>>>> the matching process it's part of the information they use. But
>>>> a lot would depend on the pet dog, too. Does your pet dog have
>>>> problems with other dogs, or does that dog pretty much like other
>>>> dogs? How old is your pet dog? If the dog is elderly how will the
>>>> dog adjust to a new dog coming in? Just some questions you need
>>>> to think about. Blessings, Debby and Neena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 19
>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:59:41 -0800
>>>> From: Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>>>> To: John Sanders <starmy22 at gmail.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List, the
>>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,
>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guidedog and fruit
>>>> Message-ID: <54b346bf.4345440a.71d9.3485 at mx.google.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>>
>>>> Hi John, probably one grape tomato won't hurt. We all drop
>>>> stuff, and try to get it before our dogs do. But unfortunately
>>>> it doesn't always happen. All you can do is do your best. If I
>>>> drop something, right away I will tell Neena to leave it. She's
>>>> getting better about doing that, but not perfect. Peace,
>>>> Debby and Neena
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 20
>>>> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 12:16:48 +0100
>>>> From: "Lisa" <dreamymarmot93 at yahoo.de>
>>>> To: "Marianne Denning" <marianne at denningweb.com>, "NAGDU Mailing List,
>>>> the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>,
>>>> "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Germany was:Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>> Message-ID: <C7039079B1184EDBBDEAC241015B5DD7 at schruyw9s1qg3e>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> Just wanted to add to this topic that it was a huuuge problem here in
>>>> Germany that we had guinea pigs and canary birds when I applied for my
>>>> dog.
>>>> Not for the school but for the health insurance that pays for a guide
>>>> dog
>>>> here where I live. It's not that they're worried about the dog or the
>>>> other
>>>> animals. It's just a strategy to avoid the costs for a dog. While my
>>>> school
>>>> was perfectly fine with the other pets that live only in our living
>>>> room
>>>> while the dog of course has the possibilty to enter the whole
>>>> apartment,
>>>> they tried to deny my application because of those small animals. Well,
>>>> German bureaucracy in general is a terrible thing.
>>>> Just wanted to share this. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Marianne Denning via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the
>>>> National
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 3:16 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have had a pet when I trained with my last 2 dogs. I don't think it
>>>>> is a problem as long as you have space and your pet will adjust to a
>>>>> dog in the home.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/11/15, Sherry Gomes via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I can only speak for GDB, but yes, many students/grads have pet dogs
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> cats
>>>>>> or other pets in the home.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sherry
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Amanda
>>>>>> Cape
>>>>>> via
>>>>>> nagdu
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 4:16 PM
>>>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Applying for a guide dog with a pet dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> When applyimg for a guide dog, do they allow you to have a family pet
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amanda
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Marianne Denning, TVI, MA
>>>>> Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired
>>>>> (513) 607-6053
>>>>>
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>>>>
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