[nagdu] dogs and canes

[Vivianna]

I say, how about some pats for the dogs and,, let’s keep our dogs nice and fit and lay off the treats.
and, i saw the leftovers from dogs relieving themselves in the hotel twice.

Vivianna

> On Jul 14, 2015, at 5:21 PM, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Debby:
> 
> That is a good idea.  Some discussion of tips and tricks for canes ad dogs
> and convention would definitely help ease the stress for the people and the
> dogs.  Even though I was at the plaza, I went back to my room in the
> afternoon to let Eva eat, play, rest and relax.  Then we were off again.  By
> the end of the week, I could tell she was a bit stressed and tired.  At 
> times I did wish for more volunteer help just so I could take the pressure 
> off Eva and go sighted guide.  That is definitely something that is needed 
> for next year.  Not having enough sighted help in a strange place adds to 
> the stress.  I was
> amazed at how well Eva worked and am extremely proud of her.  I also second
> what you said about the other conventions.  I used to be a member of that
> organization too and often encountered barking and growling dogs.  Also, at
> the NFB we did not have dogs relieving themselves in the hotel.  So, as
> Debby said, give all the wonderful guide dogs an extra few treats and hugs
> for a job well done.
> 
> Sandra and Eva
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Marianne Denning via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:38 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Marianne Denning
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and canes
> 
> I did a few cane dances too.  We tried to avoid them but it didn't
> always work.  I think some tips and tricks for dog handlers and cane
> users might make the convention experience better.  My dog was very
> stressed by the end of the convention.
> 
> I want to commend all of the dogs and their handlers.  I attended the
> other group's convention several years ago and almost every time we
> were in a large group one dog was start barking and then others would
> join in.  I did not hear one dog bark at any of the general sessions
> or other meetings I attended.  Everyone give your dog an extra treat
> for that.  (smile)
> 
> On 7/14/15, S L Johnson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Eva and I hated all the canes too.  Sometimes they would walk three or
>> four
>> 
>> people all in a row not leaving the dog a safe path to travel.  When we
>> were
>> 
>> sitting in meetings the canes would hit Eva as she stayed quietly tucked
>> under my chair.  The canes were horrible in the exhibit hall.  I
>> especially
>> 
>> got upset when the cane user would keep hitting Eva when I had told them
>> she
>> 
>> was there.  I can't tell you how many times she hid her head behind my
>> legs
>> 
>> to keep from being hit in the face by someone holding their cane too high
>> off the floor.  When  using a cane in a crowded convention around guide
>> dogs, the cane user should glide the cane instead of lifting it up and
>> tapping it.  Eva ad I hate hate hate canes, especially the extremely long
>> ones loved by so many cane users, they are a danger to the rest of us.  I
>> was tripped and fell many times because of the canes.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Debby Phillips via nagdu
>> Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:39 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users ;
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Debby Phillips ; jerupert at outlook.com
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dogs and canes
>> 
>> Hi Jack, just seeing this.  We're home now.  Nova was a little
>> freaked out by all the canes, too.  I just tried to talk softly
>> to her all the time, telling her what a good girl she was, and
>> encouraging her to keep walking.  Her biggest issue was other
>> dogs.  She was always wanting to pull over to visit.  Who knows?
>> We might have come across each other.
>> 
>> One suggestion for next time, and I did try to do this as much as
>> I could, but it was more difficult, as my husband and I were at
>> the Clarion.  That is, give your dog some breaks.  Go to your
>> room and just give him some down time; play with him a bit.  This
>> will relax him, and you too maybe.  Sometimes we would find a
>> semi quiet place to sit and just be together.  A friend of mine
>> also got an extra key to her room and we would go there sometimes
>> too just to give Nova a time out.  It's hard to do with a busy
>> convention schedule, but I decided a long time ago that if my dog
>> was stressed out, it was worth giving her time to settle down and
>> relax a little.  Before I came to NFB, I was in ACB and have been
>> going to conventions on and off since 1981.    Peace,    Debby
>> and Nova
>> 
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