[nagdu] Introduction

Sun Nov 29 01:05:44 UTC 2015

Welcome Morgan and Fairest. Debby now that's my entertainment for
today! I even found some in coat pockets from the prior winter! LOL!

On 11/28/15, Morgan Leland via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> We live in Arizona so concrete is actually our best bet. She doesn't like
> gravel and there are rare patches of grass. She goes fine on concrete and
> actually does well going on command. She just surprises me as well. So many
> different things to try and I will experiment with them all. I thought about
> trying harder with the gravel so she wouldn't get used to going on concretes
> since sidewalks seem to be our nemesis.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 28, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
> You're trying to relieve her on cement? This might be your problem.
> While this is certainly convenient, and sometimes the only option in
> some areas, some dogs refuse to relieve on cement or concrete. And
> even if they get used to doing it in one place, they might be hesitant
> to do it in another place. The Golden Guy would relieve himself in the
> relief area at GEB, but when we visited Manhattan, he refused to do
> it, and wound up relieving in harness because he held it so long.
>
> I live in Michigan, so you'd be hard pressed to find a place where
> there's no grass. So I don't make a fuss over whether he relieves on
> cement, gravel, or grass. He'll definitely go on gravel, but if
> there's grass nearby, he's picking the grass. Definitely go grass and
> see what happens.
> --
> Raven
> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
> www.1am-editing.com
>
> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
> have or what you do.
>
> Naturally-reared guide dogs
> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>
>> On 11/28/15, Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm surprised at how common this seems to be from this thread.
>> My dog has only pooped in harness once. It was a week or 2 after
>> returning home with him. He kept pulling over to the grass, telling me
>> that he needed to go. But I thought he just wanted to sniff and kept
>> telling him "hup-up" and "let's go." Well, he could only hold it for
>> so long, just pulled over to the grass and did his business. I felt
>> really bad after that and quickly understood that was his signal that
>> he needed to relieve himself.
>> Don't get me wrong. There's been many times he's pulled over and
>> didn't do a thing, or just wanted to sniff, and so I have to use my
>> judgment. When was the last time he relieved or had a drink? Did he
>> poop at all today or within the last couple days? Is he stopping here
>> because we've done it 4 times before and now this is a ritual in the
>> making? I also use a rule of 3, if he pulls over 3 times, he's gotta
>> go.
>>
>> I'm not sure where my dog learned to indicate, but I'm sure glad he
>> does before just deciding to let loose while wearing the harness.
>>
>> Dan, I have also relieved my dog while he was in harness. Our dogs are
>> taught to relieve on command, whether they're wearing a harness,
>> winter coat, or booties, so I don't think it's a big deal. I
>> understand why the schools advise against it, but ultimately, it's
>> only a problem if the dog is deciding when and where to relieve
>> without the handler's knowledge and permission.
>>
>> I've committed a no-no worse than that. I've let my dog out into the
>> yard to relieve himself on multiple occasions. It's not something that
>> happens on a daily basis, but it definitely happens.
>> --
>> Raven
>> Founder of 1AM Editing & Research
>> www.1am-editing.com
>>
>> You are valuable because of your potential, not because of what you
>> have or what you do.
>>
>> Naturally-reared guide dogs
>> https://groups.google.com/d/forum/nrguidedogs
>>
>>> On 11/28/15, Dan Weiner via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hello and welcome to the wonderful world of guide dogs, I hope you have
>>> many
>>> good adventures with your dog.
>>> Well, the only thing I've found that works is to learn to read the dog's
>>> signs as much as possible...I know, easier said than done, right?  Then
>>> give
>>> them as many opportunities as necessary so that the doggie is relieving
>>> hhimself when you want,  for which he gets a lot of praise, as opposd to
>>> just while walking.  If you notice your dog start to get in that
>>> position,
>>> also, pull your dog over to the side of the road or path on to grass or
>>> whatever so at ;least he or she starts getting the idea that he needs to
>>> pull over.  One of my dogs learned to pull over when it was necessary so
>>> I
>>> could then just give him a park time and at least we weren't walking
>>> while
>>> it happened. My problem as I see it is not that it's in harness so much
>>> as
>>> the fact that the dog is just doing plop plop fizz fizz when you're
>>> walking,
>>> and if you can at least get it to the point that it's on route  but  not
>>> while moving, (in other words when you're actually giving him a time)
>>> then
>>> that would be good.  It's all easier said than done and I wish you the
>>> best.
>>> I must say honestly that Parker, my fourth dog is unique in that he has
>>> never done his business while walking,  but other dogs I had did it at
>>> least
>>> a few times until I got it all sorted out. One thing aalso is maybe
>>> choosing
>>> some spots on route where it's good to relieve and giving your dog a
>>> regular
>>> time there.  The dogs signs that I mentioned could be slowing down,
>>> speeding
>>> up, panting, sniffing excessively, stopping unexpectedly and starting
>>> again,
>>> or pulling over.
>>>
>>> I'm most likely in the minority in that I relieve in harness, my
>>> experience
>>> shows it's not the equipment that the dog wears, but the place and
>>> situation, and the dog learrs when it's appropriate...but I respect
>>> other
>>> opinions of course, it's just always worked for me this way.
>>>
>>> I should point out, I mean I relieve the dog wile he wears the harness.
>>> Saying I relieve in harness gives the mistaken impression that I am the
>>> one
>>> wearing theequipment--lol
>>>
>>>
>>> Good luck to you and warmest wishes, we're all here if you need us.
>>>
>>> Dan and the Parker Larker
>
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