[NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile

Wed Aug 17 20:32:25 UTC 2016

That’s fantastic, Cheryl! What an awesome story! I’d love to have met any one of those folks. 
Aleeha and Whitley 
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 2:48 PM, Sherrill O'Brien via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I'd give anything to still have that record, but alas it disappeared years
> ago.
> 
> I have another story from that first class. I was standing outside the van
> waiting my turn to work with my instructor when I heard someone approaching
> down the sidewalk. Suddenly there was this big growl, and a dog lunged
> toward mine. My dog jumped up and growled back, and the man with the dog who
> started it corrected his dog with the signature Seeing Eye correction word
> "Phooey!" I had no idea who it was, and he just passed on by, without a
> greeting or an apology. As a fledgling newby, I was embarrassed that my dog
> reacted as she did, though now I would be more understanding of it. Anyway,
> I gave her a big leash correction and in the process slammed my elbow on the
> van door, getting a big bruise. The instructor arrived and said "Can you
> guess who that was? None other than Morris Frank!"
> So that's how I, well, sort of met our great pioneer. I'm sure he had so
> many encounters with students in training in Morristown that he didn't think
> twice about it, and just went about his business. But it was a strange
> encounter for me.
> 
> Sherrill
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile
> 
> 				Can anybody send a clip of his voice saying
> that, now I'm curious to hear what it sounds like.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherrill O'Brien
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> Cc: Sherrill O'Brien <Sherrill.obrien at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile
> 
> Tracy and all,
> 
> I'm such an oldtimer that Mr. Debetaz  (pronounced Duhbaytuh) was at Seeing
> Eye when I was in my very first class. I can remember him always greeting us
> at the beginning of each day in his heavy Swiss accent and his rousing and
> cheery voice saying, "Good mawning  students and litla dogs!" He made a big
> impression on every student, and apparently the dogs as well. My dog and I
> went home from the school in early September. Close to Christmas Seeing Eye
> sent out their annual Christmas greetings as they still do by CD or online.
> But back then, the greeting was in the form of...yes, a record! My dog was
> with me when I played it, and when Mr. Debataz came on with that familiar
> greeting, my dog jumped up and began barking and looking around...that was
> so great! My husband and I still laugh about it. Good memories!
> 
> Sherrill
> 
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> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
> via NAGDU
> Sent: August 17, 2016 1:47 PM
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> Cc: Tracy Carcione
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile
> 
> Or you can read it in braille, also available on BARD, and work out your own
> pronunciations.  Though I bet Debetaz beats most people--it did me, until I
> met an old-timer graduate.
> Tracy
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:39 PM
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Juno, was leader dog for the blind denile
> 
> Thank you Tracy, I've read Love in the Lead, but apparently I missed that
> little tidbit. For those interested it can be found on Bard. The narator is
> decent, even though he butchers some Pronunciations.
> 
> Jeff Young
> 
>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Way back at the beginning of the guide dog movement, people felt the 
>> fake dog needed its own name, so they called her Juno, after the 
>> Goddess Juno, who is the goddess of marriage, among other things.
>> Thus, the name Juno can be thought of as a symbol of loving 
>> partnership, which seems very appropriate to me.
>> This is according to Love in the Lead, which has a lot of the early 
>> history of The Seeing Eye.  Since The Seeing Eye was the first 
>> American guide dog school, its early history is the history of the 
>> beginnings of guide dogs in the U.S.  Fascinating stuff, if you're 
>> into
> history, and very readable.
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jeffrey 
>> Young via NAGDU
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 12:46 PM
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>> Cc: Jeffrey Young
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile
>> 
>> A juno walk is a walk with an instructor that simulates working a 
>> guide
> dog.
>> You are instructed on how to hold the handle and leashe, and you get 
>> to learn about pace, and the amount of pull you want in your dog. Is 
>> it exactly the same as working a dog, no, however it helps a lot, and 
>> it helps the instructor in giving you the best match possible. It also 
>> enables the instructor to give the client immediate feedback on what 
>> they are doing well with, and what they can improve upon.
>> I do not know why it is called a juno walk, just the term they use I
> guess. 
>> 
>> Jeff Young
>> 
>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:39 AM, Andy B. via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is a juno walk?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> Young via NAGDU
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>>> Cc: Jeffrey Young <jeff.young8806 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile
>>> 
>>> Hello John, and all:
>>> 
>>> As part of your application process to the Seeing Eye they will send 
>>> out an instructor to do a Juno walk, and get to know you a little. If 
>>> you are denied,  they will tell you exactly why, and exactly what 
>>> they think you need to work on. I think you'll get a lot out of 
>>> visiting with an instructor. It will definitely give you, and them 
>>> much more information then a video.
>>> I'm currently with my 2nd dog from The seeing Eye, and I'd be happy 
>>> to answer any questions you have. Feel free to email me off list at 
>>> jeff.young8806 at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Jeff Young
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:19 AM, John Sanders via NAGDU 
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure.
>>>> 
>>>> The only thing that they would tell me is that they would be sending 
>>>> some
>>> one out to see what my routes are.
>>>> 
>>>> It would take 6 months for them to do that though.
>>>> 
>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> 
>>>> John Sanders
>>>> 
>>>> Skype: sandej.2006
>>>> 
>>>> facebook: jsanders85
>>>> 
>>>> twitter: starmy22
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/17/2016 5:39 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>> I'm sorry you weren't accepted at Leader Dogs,  but  wishing you 
>>>>> luck
>>> with The Seeing Eye and GDF!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wonder what Guide Dogs of America meant by walking at a "normal
>> speed"?
>>> My dog and I both have completely natural, and matching, fast walking
>> paces.
>>> Whether I'm walking alone, with a cane, or with my dog, I just tend 
>>> to walk quickly and always have. I hope that wouldn't be grounds for 
>>> rejection sometime in the future.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lisie and her Speedy Mr Golden
>>>>> 
>>>>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:36 PM, John Sanders via NAGDU 
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> I just thought that I would write to let you know that I didn't 
>>>>>> get
>>> excepted in to Leader Dogs guide dog school.
>>>>>> I'm looking at the seeing eye.
>>>>>> I've heard from Guide dogs of America. and they said that I need 
>>>>>> to keep
>>> my walking at a normal walking speed.
>>>>>> I was nervous and have a habit of walking quickly.
>>>>>> The two schools I'm now looking at are the Seeing eye and Guide 
>>>>>> dog
>>> foundation.
>>>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> John Sanders
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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