[NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile

John Sanders starmy22 at gmail.com
Fri Aug 19 04:30:39 UTC 2016 

Hi,

I think it is right travel aid because I'm looking to excellerate my 
mobility skills to a more independent.

I have used my cane for over 31 years.

I hope to hear from you soon.

Sincerely,

John Sanders



On 8/18/2016 11:41 PM, Marianne Denning via NAGDU wrote:
> It is also important to know that a guide dog isn't right for everyone.
> John, a guide dog may not be the right choice for you at this point in
> time.  A dog is a lot of work, takes regular handling in the beginning and
> requires someone who has pretty good independent travel skills.  I know you
> have wanted a dog for a long time.  Why do you think a guide dog is the
> right travel aid for you?
>
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:18 PM, Dar via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
>> I am a good traveler. One of the things I learned was to ask questions.
>> When I am with friends visiting, I will use the gps just encase we get
>> separated have been glad that a gps came out for us. My best friend.
>>
>>
>> Dar
>> Every Saint has a past,
>> Every sinner has a future, Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Aug 18, 2016, at 8:53 PM, Andy B. via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Then it's up to you to use what they taught you independently.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of John Sanders
>> via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:02 PM
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>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: John Sanders <starmy22 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The blind agency that serves Michigan won't give me anymore Mobility
>> training.
>>> They think that I have the skills.  They say that they don't want to use
>> any more money for mobility training on me.
>>> I live in Michigan.
>>>
>>> I've attended leader dogs excellerated Mobility training program already.
>>>
>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> John Sanders
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 8/17/2016 6:42 PM, Steven Johnson via NAGDU wrote:
>>>> John, if Leader Dog denied you, the chances that another program will
>> do the same until these issues are addressed.  Leader has been known to
>> give applicants a *chance* that other programs might not, so the best thing
>> you can do is heed their advice.  The Leader Dog AMP program is good, but
>> what might be best is to get a thorough O&M training, and then move forward
>> from there.
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha
>>>> Dudley via NAGDU
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:11 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Cc: Aleeha Dudley
>>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] leader dog for the blind denile
>>>>
>>>> John,
>>>> If the school says that you need to work on your orientation and
>> mobility skills, take that to heart. Perhaps attending a training center
>> might be of interest to you? Keeping a fairly consistent speed is important
>> when working a dog so as not to cause doubt in the dog’s mind as to your
>> direction and intentions. Getting an instructor visit from the Seeing Eye
>> might help you a lot in terms of knowing what you need to work on if they
>> do not accept you. It is hard for someone to determine simply from your
>> video exactly the skills you possess.
>>>> I am working with my second Seeing Eye dog now, and I believe that they
>> do a great job assessing their clients before they even et to campus. It is
>> important that you can navigate competently and safely around your
>> environment, as well as those that may not be familiar to you. You need to
>> be able to cross streets safely, even those that you do not know. You need
>> t be able to get yourself out of a situation if you get lost or you don’t
>> know for sure where you are.
>>>> I hope some of this information is helpful to you.
>>>> Aleeha and Whitley
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:13 AM, John Sanders via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> All they would say that my problem solving skills need to get better.
>> and I need to work on my street crossing skills.
>>>>> I only messed up one time during the video on a street crossing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did pretty well on the others.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only other thing they said was that I need to work on my mobility
>> skills.
>>>>> And I can't get any additional mobility training because the blind
>> agency here in Michigan doesn't think I need it.
>>>>> They won't spend anymore money on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm thinking about applying to GDF or the seeing eye.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've heard those are pretty good schools.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>> John Sanders
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/17/2016 7:44 AM, Andy B. via NAGDU wrote:
>>>>>> Last I knew, the trainers were supposed to match you with a dog that
>> fit your walking pace and lifestyle. Strange that they would refuse on
>> walking speed. Might it be something else they might not be telling?
>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 7:37 AM, Nancy VanderBrink via NAGDU <
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yeah I was also confused by that.
>>>>>>> The only time I'm slow is when I'm on the phone or shopping lol.
>>>>>>> Otherwise Doc and I are what my trainer called Medium Fast.
>>>>>>> Best wishes to you.
>>>>>>> Nancy & Doc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 17, 2016, at 5:40 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU <
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm sorry you weren't accepted at Leader Dogs,  but  wishing you
>> luck with The Seeing Eye and GDF!
>>>>>>>> I wonder what Guide Dogs of America meant by walking at a "normal
>> speed"? My dog and I both have completely natural, and matching, fast
>> walking paces. Whether I'm walking alone, with a cane, or with my dog, I
>> just tend to walk quickly and always have. I hope that wouldn't be grounds
>> for rejection sometime in the future.
>>>>>>>> Lisie and her Speedy Mr Golden
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 16, 2016, at 11:36 PM, John Sanders via NAGDU <
>> nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> I just thought that I would write to let you know that I didn't
>> get excepted in to Leader Dogs guide dog school.
>>>>>>>>> I'm looking at the seeing eye.
>>>>>>>>> I've heard from Guide dogs of America. and they said that I need
>> to keep my walking at a normal walking speed.
>>>>>>>>> I was nervous and have a habit of walking quickly.
>>>>>>>>> The two schools I'm now looking at are the Seeing eye and Guide
>> dog foundation.
>>>>>>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>> John Sanders
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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