[NAGDU] picking up after dog
Cindy Ray
cindyray at gmail.com
Wed Jan 13 15:34:53 UTC 2016
Sometimes I feel that we want the schools to train us to do every miniscual
thing that the dog needs us to do with it. I prefer to use my imagination.
Half the time we go home and end up doing something a little different
anyway. I want the school to train my dog to be the best guide possible;
then I want to have some good working time with that dog at the school so
that I can ask questions that come up. I've seen TSE work with people on the
travelling poopers; then the rest is up to us to be observant I think.
Cindy Lou Ray
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I use a relieving harness which was given to me by my school. I got Zeb used
to it in training as he moved around and still does when he goes. In my
area where I live there's a pretty steep fine for not cleaning up that I
really don't want to pay. It would help if these schools would realize who
these wonderful dogs are going to and do some long-term planning and
brainstorming about these types of things and that should include not just
trainers but also the raisers and should be consistent across the board.`
Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilniski at gmail.com
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:28 PM, Star Gazer via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>
> I think there is a difference between not being able to do
> something and half-assing it. It sounds like Dan, that you half-ass
> picking up, at least that's how I read your message. Far better to
> decide you can't or just will not do it, and have someone else do a
> good job then to say "It's hard because I'm blind".
> I don't really care how poop gets picked up, just that it gets done well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog
>
> Sandra, I don't exactly understand the hostility in your post. You
> maybe cannot pick up; most of us can; therefore, it is our
> responsibility to do so. Why? Because other people might walk in it if
> we don't. I think it is really uncalled for to say we are
> self-righteous, especially since the whole thread came up in the first
place because someone was asking the question.
> It is hard to pick up in snow; it isn't close to impossible unless you
> really are physically incapable. I don't see the need for the
> hostility, not from you or from anyone else. State you have physical
> limitations and cannot; then leave it at that.
> Cindy Lou Ray, Moderator
> cindyray at gmail.com
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>
> Hi Dan,
>
> Finally someone who agrees with me. I know this post will make the
> rest of you self righteous folks very mad but, I think it has to be
> said. We are blind and we can not do everything perfectly. There is
> nothing wrong with admitting there are things we cannot do. In some
> cities blind people are exempt from picking up and I think it should
> be that way everywhere. It is not easy with some dogs who move around
> a lot or dogs who do not like being touched or approached as they are
> relieving themselves. Picking up can cause a lot of stress for a
> handler for several reasons. Where is the nearest trash can? you
> can't just stroll down the street with a bag of dog waste in your
> hand. If you are a woman all dressed up in a long fancy dress, do you
> really want to bend down and get all messed up? As many of you have
> said, picking up in the snow is almost impossible. Why can't we be
> like those other countries and just admit that as blind people there
> are entitled to some consideration and exemptions? I will admit, I
> never pick up after my dogs. In my own back yard, I let her out on
> her 30 foot tie-out and get sighted help to clean the yard twice a
> week. She usually goes at home but, if she did go out in public, I
> would find some grass and let her go. When at conventions, I find a
> quiet area of grass at the hotel and convention center where my dog
> can go and if somebody doesn't like it, then too bad. I have physical
> limitations that make picking up impossible so, the rest of you will
> just have to live with it. For some of us, it is impossible,
> especially if you have other medical issues. I do not understand why many
blind people refuse to admit that there are just some things that we can not
do.
>
> Sandra and Eva
>
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>
> I clean up after my dog especially in public because it's required,.
> But I think we should be given an exemption on cleaning up as they do
> in some countries It is harder to clean up if we're blind, sorry, JMO. .
> You guys don't like my opinion, , I don't care--lol One of the great
> things about the net is that we can all express our opinions if we do
> it respectfully.
>
> Now, so in my home area my hound relieves in the back yard, and
> therefore if I miss something it's no big deal.when we're out and
> about I clean up and I do use a short leash because otherwise Mr.
> parker has the singular habit of walking while he delivers his calling
> card--smile. If he's on a long leash it's very hard to figure out what
> he's doing, if he's on a long leash I hold it closer to the
> collar...if I touch his back he walks away so it's always an interesting
experience--lol.
> And no, my potential critics, he was always this way even at school,
> not just since he came home and can run free in the fenced back yard
> at my disgression.
>
> Warmest wishes to all,
> Dan the lovable but opinionated
>
>
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> I always use a short leash. And you'll remember how sort TSE leashes are.
> Tracy
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> It is that long stretch from the top of the leash to the dog to walk
> up to her.
> I make the leash taught so I can feel when she stops to go.
> As I move my foot she starts to move as well like a dance loll.
> Now ahem would rather dance with my husband. smile.
> That is the part I wonder about.
> Even on short leash.
>
> Original message:
>> As soon as I feel her back is arched, I put my hand on it and then I
>> step behind him so that one foot is on either side of him. You want
>> to have your hand starting at the head and then run it down his back.
>> Then you can follow where he goes; you go down to just above the tail
>> and keep a light hand on him.
>> Cindy
>
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>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] picking up after dog
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>> How did you learn how to walk up to the dog. Even sliding feet.
>> Sure would save on bags when she uses lots of them during the day.
>
>> Original message:
>>> Hi Dar.
>>> Ben used to move while relieving. The solution was to hold the
>>> leash pretty close to his collar, so, even if he moved, he couldn't
>>> move far. Pretty soon, he stopped moving.
>>> Good luck. Picking up in snow is a pain.
>>> Tracy
>
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>>> Folks when you are brainless as I are smile, I forget to take off
>>> the toileting harness.
>>> The other dogs this didn't matter, to her it does.
>>> She chewed up this one so bad I finally threw it away.
>>> When I try to follow leash down telling her to stay, she will move.
>>> If you have tricks of the trade or trade the trick that woud be kind.
>>> In the winter with snow I will keep her using the harness.
>>> Safer for me.
>>> She not only goes inside the bag but on the outside as well.
>>> Ugg not nice at all.
>>> Just wanted to know how you do it.
>>> Thanks,
>
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