[NAGDU] Overhead Obstacles? Too Much Avoidance?

Lisie Foster lisiefoster at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 30 17:04:30 UTC 2016


Thank you, Tami!

I'm glad my dog isn't taking it way too far with his street-crossing. He actually did cross the street at a driveway -- we often use certain driveways as our landmarks to cross the streets (residential), and he chose one of these "crosswalks" as the place to cross ahead of the weeping willow tree! I thought, "Ooookay!" and followed him.

You have a good point; there could have been something else on the ground he saw ahead and avoided. Hmm. If he does this again, I think I'll investigate whether he is really just avoiding the branches in a dramatic way, lol, or whether there is something else there!

Thanks, Tami!

Lisie
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> On Jul 30, 2016, at 12:00 PM, Tami Jarvis via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Lisie,
> 
> Good boy!
> 
> When my dogs are first learning a new type of obstacle avoidance, they'll sometimes go to extremes to get around it, so that may be what happened when yours crossed the street to get around the weeping willow. When they're more confident at managing the overheads along with what's on the ground, we cut things a lot closer and don't veer around as much.
> 
> When I'm teaching the dog to go around things, I'm usually on familiar routes with my cane, then the same familiar routes in harness, so I give a lot of guidance on how I want the dog to go around this or that and get back on course. Then when we expand our horizons, I let the dog decide how to get us from here to there safely. There's an in-between stage where the dog is starting to generalize what he learned in training to new situations and different obstacles, and that can be tricky for me as a handler as I try to figure how much help from me the dog still needs and how much help from me is going to cause a problem. Over time, we manage to get it all straightened out, and I can trust my dog to make good decisions.
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> So in the situation of yours where your dog crossed the street, if you know enough of the lay of the land to know that wasn't the best call, you could rework it the way you want him to do it. If you don't know the lay of the land, I would say go with the dog. There may be stuff on the ground that makes going around without crossing the street dangerous. If that's the case, I would teach the dog to turn around to cross the street at an intersection instead of getting into the practice of crossing at random. I also teach my dogs to go into the side of the street and stay out of the flow of traffic, then get back onto the sidewalk as soon as there is a safe way to do that.
> 
> hth,
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> Tami
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> 
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>> On 07/30/2016 01:21 AM, Lisie Foster via NAGDU wrote:
>> There are very few overhead obstacles where my dog and I walk. But, there are a few, mostly trees with branches hanging down over the sidewalk.
>> 
>> For two days in a row, "Kennedy" (call name for the public as of now...I've just decided on it!) walked me into some low-hanging branches and we re-worked them like we would anything else. We finished with him skirting around them quite well.
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>> The next time we passed that place, he skirted the branches, then returned to our path. But, the next time, he insisted on crossing to the opposite side of the street, just until we'd passed the place where those branches are, and then he indicated he was ready to return to our original path! You'd have thought there was major construction there, rather than some weeping willow branches.
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>> So, what do you think I should do in this situation? Do I leave it to him to decide the safest way to proceed? Do I keep him going forward on our original route and make sure he avoids the branches? Do other dogs actually cross from one sidewalk to another to avoid something that minor, or is that something we need to work on?
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>> Thank you so so much!
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>> Lisie and "Kennedy"
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>> lisiefoster at yahoo.com
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