[NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 143, Issue 25
Peter Wolf
pwolf1 at wolfskills.com
Sun Feb 19 22:51:35 UTC 2017
Reb Moshe,
Ah, the poor man’s pocket warmer, close to my heart…or thigh…depending on the pocket. Double bag!!
Peter
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> 1. Re: home owner's insurance and dangerous dog? (Vivianna)
> 2. Re: Mut mats and travel crates (Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU)
> 3. Sabbath: baggies and babysitters. (Moshe Segal)
> 4. In Preparation for Warmer Weather (Moshe Segal)
> 5. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (Howard J. Levine)
> 6. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (Lisa Belville)
> 7. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (Tracy Carcione)
> 8. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (Lisa Belville)
> 9. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (Cindy Ray)
> 10. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (Cindy Ray)
> 11. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (david at bakerinet.com)
> 12. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (Aleeha Dudley)
> 13. Re: In Preparation for Warmer Weather (david at bakerinet.com)
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> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 07:58:21 -0600
> From: Vivianna <irishana at gmail.com>
> To: "Howard J. Levine" <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] home owner's insurance and dangerous dog?
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> OK, now i am totally confused.
> This brings me back to asking my original question. Can the home owners insurance charge me extra for having a so-called dangerous dog or not?
> Some say yes, some say no. But, what is correct under the ADA? Does anybody know for certain?
>
> Vivianna
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>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 4:56 AM, Howard J. Levine <WB2HWW at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> The insurance company can not charge you for guide dog at all.
>>
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>> Thanks for the answers. Blah, looks as though I will be insurance shopping.
>> You know, the other day, i was looking up the most popular breeds of dogs in the united states and, number 1 was lab, with number 2 being german shepherd. I wonder how accurate this really is as, I very rarely come across any GSD?s as pets. And, how many folks really want to pay extra on their insurance just because they have a certain breed of dog.
>>
>> Vivianna
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> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:48:15 -0600
> From: Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU <shardy at nfbtx.org>
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Mut mats and travel crates
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> Hello Ashley,
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> The Mut Mats can be purchased from the following: muttmats.com
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> Stacie Hardy <shardy at nfbtx.org>
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> On 2/16/2017 10:46 PM, Ashley Coleman via NAGDU wrote:
>> Good evening all.
>> I'm looking for a mut mat on Amazon. I can't remember who they're made by. I'm also looking for a travel crate if anyone has suggestions.
>> Thanks.
>> Ashley
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> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:56:55 -0500
> From: Moshe Segal <moshesegal at ameritech.net>
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> Subject: [NAGDU] Sabbath: baggies and babysitters.
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> I am receiving the digests, and I find it too hard to isolate just the
> quotes that are relevant, so I am opting not to have any prior quotes.
>
> The problem with leaving a baggie outside is that I do not know the
> exact place the dog is going to relieve. Beside bringing in and out, I
> am not allowed to move things outside from one place to another a
> distance of more than about 6 to 8 feet, and even if the dog relieved
> in the right place, I would have to leave the bag in the place it was
> used. I generally try to get the dog to go on grass, most preferably a
> tree lawn, and particularly on the block nearest home. The Seeing Eye
> did not address this issue, since when I was there it did not come up;
> the campus was fenced in, which created a situation similar to an Eruv.
>
> To the person that pointed out that having a babysitter is making them
> work, there are two things to take into account. Firstly, "work" is a
> broad mistranslation of the Hebrew word that is used in regard to the
> Sabbath; "skilled activity" would be a closer attempt, though not
> exact. There are 39 particular activities, related to building the
> Tabernacle in the desert, that are forbidden on the Sabbath and major
> holidays. Other activities may be strenuous, and we may call them work,
> but a person could engage in them all day, and although they may be
> violating the spirit of the Sabbath, they are technically not violating
> its legal boundaries. Supervising and feeding a small child does not
> fall into any of those categories. Secondly, unlike most of the major
> religions, particularly Christianity and Islam, Judaism does not expect
> or even consider right that all the world adhere to it. Except for
> seven basic ethical laws, all the others of the Old Testament apply only
> to those born of a Jewish mother, or who properly converted. We are not
> supposed to directly ask those not of the covenant to do forbidden
> activity, because we are not supposed to have it done for us, except
> under certain circumstances, which is beyond the scope of this
> explanation. I suppose the woman who insisted on not feeding her dog
> had a non-Jew do it for her, which, as I said before is totally unnecessary.
>
> Some people are questioning the rabbis' insensitivity regarding not
> allowing the use of a cane. As far as it being life-threatening not to
> have one, they would probably say that there is no requirement to go
> outside or to cross streets equal to the prohibition of using a cane.
> Going to the synagogue is fulfilling a rabbinic enactment that is
> trumped by the Biblical prohibition. The rabbis do not make the laws,
> but interpret those made before them, and use certain principles to
> determine when to be lenient and when to be strict. It is not a matter
> of personal preference. Would a shoplifter be acquitted on account of
> being extremely famished and not affording to purchase food properly?
> Can one who violates the speed limit get off with an excuse that they
> are pressed for time and were threatened with termination if they are
> late one more time? As I may have mentioned, there are those that
> permit the use of a cane, and I do not consider those following their
> ruling to violate the Sabbath. But we are not supposed to shop around
> for the ruling that is to our liking, once we have been issued one.
>
> I myself have been issued a leniency on the Sabbath in another area. I
> am allowed to use a CPAP while sleeping, even though it uses electricity
> and monitors my use, and respiratory status, because it is
> life-preserving and according to some the use of electricity is not
> literally using fire, and is forbidden only at a protective rabbinic level.
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> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:24:26 -0500
> From: Moshe Segal <moshesegal at ameritech.net>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it
> seems each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>
>
> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and
> I stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around
> unused bags in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag
> there till I can get to a place of disposal, because I have other things
> there, such as wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and
> its contents is likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I
> do not trust the endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be
> pressed out of the bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>
> Moshe
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:33:09 -0500
> From: "Howard J. Levine" <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "'Moshe Segal'" <moshesegal at ameritech.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> You should have the dog go near your house before you go on your way, then
> go back inside.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Moshe Segal via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 12:24 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Moshe Segal
> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it seems
> each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>
>
> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and I
> stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around unused bags
> in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag there till I can
> get to a place of disposal, because I have other things there, such as
> wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and its contents is
> likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I do not trust the
> endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be pressed out of the
> bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>
> Moshe
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:48:11 -0600
> From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> Hi, Moshe.
>
> I'm not sure where you live or what your dog's relieving schedule is. Paige
> generally does the No. 2 once a day, twice if she's been active or has been
> excited by a friendly visitor.
>
> Obviously you'd give the dog a chance before you leave for work or for a
> walk. If your work area has a good spot, give the dog another chance to go
> there, or whenever you have a break. I generally try to give my dogs a
> relief time before harnessing up or before I will be inside for more than an
> hour.
>
> Paige has only gone while working once, so I'm fine about giving her a
> chance to relieve before harnessing up. We have a regular spot that's near
> a dumpster, so I can just toss the baggie in there.
>
> My last dog was a chronic in harness reliever. I picked up, but there were
> times I admit I would put the bag just off the curb so it wasn't blocking
> the sidewalk and wasn't dirtying up anyone's property.
>
> And yes, I realize there's a debate about removing the harness while the dog
> is relieving. For me it depends on the circumstances. This particular dog
> had some issues, plus she would indicate she had to go by moving us to the
> closest curb or grassy area, so I didn't consider it a behavioral issue.
>
> The other ideas would be to double bag or use a ziplock type bag. This
> would maybe cut down on the smell, though there's no guarantee. you could
> also work on teaching your dog how to find a waste can or dumpster.
>
> Hope this helps some.
>
> Lisa
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
> IF THE HOUSEWORK IS DONE - THEN THE COMPUTER IS Broken!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Moshe Segal via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Moshe Segal" <moshesegal at ameritech.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:24 AM
> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>
>
>> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it seems
>> each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
>> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>>
>>
>> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
>> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
>> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and I
>> stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around unused
>> bags in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag there till
>> I can get to a place of disposal, because I have other things there, such
>> as wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and its contents
>> is likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I do not trust the
>> endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be pressed out of the
>> bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>>
>> Moshe
>>
>>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:51:00 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> Hi Moshe.
> I sometimes stick a filled baggy in my pocket, if I'm wearing something with
> big pockets. Or I have a fanny pack with a big enough pocket to carry a
> baggy for a while.
> A friend gave me a thing, shaped like a very big paw, which has a pouch in
> it specifically for carrying filled baggies. There's also some charcoal in
> that pouch to suck up the smell. I have no idea what it's called, though.
>
> I'm not crazy about carrying around full baggies, but sometimes it's a ways
> to a trashcan, and there's not much choice.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 12:24 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Moshe Segal
> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>
> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it seems
> each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>
>
> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and I
> stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around unused bags
> in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag there till I can
> get to a place of disposal, because I have other things there, such as
> wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and its contents is
> likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I do not trust the
> endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be pressed out of the
> bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>
> Moshe
>
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> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:08:38 -0600
> From: "Lisa Belville" <missktlab1217 at frontier.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> Oh Tracey, could you maybe ask your friend about that Paw-shaped pouch? it
> sounds adorable and very useful.
>
> Lisa
>
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1217 at frontier.com
> IF THE HOUSEWORK IS DONE - THEN THE COMPUTER IS Broken!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
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> Cc: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>
>
>> Hi Moshe.
>> I sometimes stick a filled baggy in my pocket, if I'm wearing something
>> with
>> big pockets. Or I have a fanny pack with a big enough pocket to carry a
>> baggy for a while.
>> A friend gave me a thing, shaped like a very big paw, which has a pouch in
>> it specifically for carrying filled baggies. There's also some charcoal
>> in
>> that pouch to suck up the smell. I have no idea what it's called, though.
>>
>> I'm not crazy about carrying around full baggies, but sometimes it's a
>> ways
>> to a trashcan, and there's not much choice.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Moshe Segal via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 12:24 PM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Moshe Segal
>> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>>
>> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it
>> seems
>> each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
>> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>>
>>
>> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
>> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
>> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and I
>> stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around unused
>> bags
>> in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag there till I
>> can
>> get to a place of disposal, because I have other things there, such as
>> wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and its contents is
>> likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I do not trust the
>> endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be pressed out of the
>> bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>>
>> Moshe
>>
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:37:31 -0600
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> I just carry it, which I hate, BTW. You could put the stuff in a double bag,
> thus giving it more strength.
> Cidy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Moshe Segal via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:24 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Moshe Segal <moshesegal at ameritech.net>
> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>
> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it seems
> each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>
>
> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and I
> stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around unused bags
> in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag there till I can
> get to a place of disposal, because I have other things there, such as
> wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and its contents is
> likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I do not trust the
> endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be pressed out of the
> bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>
> Moshe
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:38:22 -0600
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> That won't always work. I took my dog out yesterday before we went on a walk
> and he did his business. After about six or so blocks into the walk, he
> needed to go again.
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Howard J. Levine
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 11:33 AM
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> Cc: Howard J. Levine <WB2HWW at earthlink.net>; 'Moshe Segal'
> <moshesegal at ameritech.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>
> You should have the dog go near your house before you go on your way, then
> go back inside.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> NAGDU
> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 12:24 PM
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> Cc: Moshe Segal
> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>
> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it seems
> each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>
>
> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and I
> stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around unused bags
> in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag there till I can
> get to a place of disposal, because I have other things there, such as
> wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and its contents is
> likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I do not trust the
> endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be pressed out of the
> bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>
> Moshe
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> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 11:16:53 -0800
> From: david at bakerinet.com
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> Good question, Moshe. ?Claire Rose will relieve?two or three times during the first mile of our walk in the morning and it is inconvenient to carry the bags if I need to leash correct. I found a canvas velcro strap from Banggood.com that goes on the harness with a snap clip at the end.
> ?I simply close the bag by tying a loop in it and clip it on to the strap until she finds a trash can.
> David & Claire Rose
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>
> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>
> From: "Moshe Segal via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
> Date: Fri, February 17, 2017 12:24 pm
>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
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> Cc: "Moshe Segal" <moshesegal at ameritech.net>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it
>
>> seems each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
>
>> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
>
>> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
>
>> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and
>
>> I stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around
>
>> unused bags in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag
>
>> there till I can get to a place of disposal, because I have other things
>
>> there, such as wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and
>
>> its contents is likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I
>
>> do not trust the endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be
>
>> pressed out of the bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>
>>
>
>> Moshe
>
> ?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:25:07 -0600
> From: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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> David,
> From what I am picturing, this sounds like the bags would hit your dog on the side. Is this the case?
> Aleeha
>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 1:16 PM, David via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Good question, Moshe. ?Claire Rose will relieve?two or three times during the first mile of our walk in the morning and it is inconvenient to carry the bags if I need to leash correct. I found a canvas velcro strap from Banggood.com that goes on the harness with a snap clip at the end.
>> ?I simply close the bag by tying a loop in it and clip it on to the strap until she finds a trash can.
>> David & Claire Rose
>> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>>
>> Subject: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>>
>> From: "Moshe Segal via NAGDU" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>
>> Date: Fri, February 17, 2017 12:24 pm
>>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>
>> Cc: "Moshe Segal" <moshesegal at ameritech.net>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>> I was going to hold off until the religious debates died down, but it
>>
>>> seems each response I give only increases it, so rather then be on hold
>>
>>> indefinitely, I will begin now.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Right now, while it is cold and I am wearing a coat, my practice is to
>>
>>> always have two pickup bags in my right coat pocket when I go out. I am
>>
>>> wondering how to handle being prepared when the temperature warms up and
>>
>>> I stop using a coat. There is not much trouble in carrying around
>>
>>> unused bags in my pants pocket, but I do not relish keeping a used bag
>>
>>> there till I can get to a place of disposal, because I have other things
>>
>>> there, such as wallet and keys, and even if they are empty, the bag and
>>
>>> its contents is likely to be squeezed in the process of walking, and I
>>
>>> do not trust the endurance of the bag, or that the contents will not be
>>
>>> pressed out of the bag. How do the rest of you deal with the situation?
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Moshe
>>
>> ?
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> Message: 13
> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:05:36 -0500
> From: david at bakerinet.com
> To: "Aleeha Dudley" <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> Cc: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>, david at bakerinet.com
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
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>
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] In Preparation for Warmer Weather
>
> From: "Aleeha Dudley" <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
>
> Date: Fri, February 17, 2017 11:25 am
>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>
> Cc: david at bakerinet.com
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> That is sort of correct, Aleeha. ?I think it hangs down more than hits her on the side. ?The strap wraps around her breast strap right at the back strap and the clip hangs below the side of the breast strap.
> David and Claire Rose
>> David,
>
>>
>
>> From what I am picturing, this sounds like the bags would hit your dog on the side. Is this the case?
>
>> Aleeha
>
>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 1:16 PM, David via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> ?
>
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