[NAGDU] Ethics, Law, & Your Public Comments: Was Retired Dogs & Rent

Jeffrey Young jeff.young8806 at gmail.com
Thu Jun 22 00:31:27 UTC 2017


Thank you Marian. This is the sentiment I was about to post, only much more articulate. I have heard, of at least one handler, not on this list, abusing the system in such a maner. 

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Jeff Young
jeff.young8806 at gmail.com

> On Jun 21, 2017, at 7:09 PM, NAGDU President via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
>    In graduate school I was required to take a course in ethics. The
> professor defined ethics as "compliance with the unenforceable". I believe
> this is as much a matter of ethics as it is a matter of law. In my opinion,
> taking advantage of the law by calling a retired service dog "semi retired"
> is unethical, as well as illegal.  How is this different than those who take
> advantage of the law that provides us access to places of public
> accommodation with our service dog by misrepresenting their pet as a service
> dog? It is no different when we call our retired service dog semi retired in
> order to avoid paying a pet deposit. Folks, we can't have it both ways! We
> cannot ask for those who misrepresent their pets as service dogs to not do
> so if we are willing to act the same way. 
> 
>    I also want to remind everyone that this list is publicly archived
> on the internet. What you say and how you represent yourself is here for the
> entire world to read. If you are willing to compromise your integrity by
> suggesting someone act in a manner contrary to ethics and law, you are
> telling the world a lot about yourself. Is this the way you want others to
> think of you? 
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
> National Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jordan Gallacher
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:04 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Jordan Gallacher
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Retired Dogs & Rent
> 
> Here is what my instructor said about that.  Semi retire the dog since you
> can have two service animals with no problems.  That is what I would do.
> Jordan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nancy VanderBrink
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 4:32 PM
> To: Nancy VanderBrink via Nagdu
> Cc: Nancy VanderBrink
> Subject: [NAGDU] Retired Dogs & Rent
> 
> Hey folks,
> So a question was asked on a group i follow and wondered what you guys knew.
> 
> So, if you're renting either a house or apartment with your current guide.
> I'm going to assume you're not paying a pet fee.
> 
> Folks that have done this before, after you retire your guide; do you have
> to pay a pet fee if you keep your guide, do you have to then pay a pet fee?
> 
> Just curious to know what you've experienced.
> 
> Thanks,
> Nancy
> 
> Please forgive the typos as this message was most likely generated using
> voice dictation Nancy Irwin
> 
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