[NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my apartment complex

[Julie Johnson]

It isn't bad behavior is the kids don't know any differently.  Bad 
behavior is a situational and cultural thing.  It's learned.  These kids 
are not trying to be mean or endanger Alleaha.  They simply have no clue 
that what they are doing is a problem.

If it were me, and it's not, I'd set aside some time to work with the 
kids.  I'd pick a time when I wasn't in a hurry and could take my time.  
It would be a challenge because of the language barrier, but kids are 
adaptable.  There would need to be a lot of showing rather than telling, 
but I think with time you could communicate appropriate behavior.

Certainly calling the landlord/CPS/the police are all options, but 
unless these kids are really young or there is some danger, I don't 
think any of that is going to be productive.  I'm understanding this 
area to be like a shared yard that is fenced. Kids play in fenced yards 
all the time around here and no one thinks a thing about it.  Perhaps I 
live in the sticks and we are all a little backwards, which is possible, 
who knows.  Personally, I wouldn't go to that until I had exhausted all 
other options.

Julie



On 3/5/2017 1:34 PM, Star Gazer via NAGDU wrote:
> 				Along with what I said in an earlier
> message, I also agree with Cindy. Sounds like you and the parents would get
> along well if you met, you both are putting up with bad behavior and
> excusing it.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley via
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> Sent: Saturday, March 4, 2017 10:55 AM
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> Cc: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] need suggestions re kids without supervision in my
> apartment complex
>
> Cindy,
> I cannot take her somewhere else, as my apartment door faces the courtyard
> these kids play in. They come racing over to bother her every time they see
> us, and there is no other way for me to get into my apartment.
> Woodley is a very soft dog, and too many harsh corrections would break her.
> Since the parents are not outside, there is no real way for me to find out
> who they are.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 4, 2017, at 8:23 AM, Danielle Ledet via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> Ahahaha! I'd employ the same tactic used to deter animals. Get you a
>> spray bottle of water and after you've tried all else, douse them! You
>> did say they don't speak English and your other means of head shaking
>> and other commonly recognized signs did not work. Neither has
>> contacting the landlord, and how can you find out who the parents are?
>> That's bound to get some wanted response!
>>
>>> On 3/4/17, Julie Johnson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> I agree with obedience exercises and other practice around the kids.
>>> I'd be easy with the corrections though.  I'm remembering Whitley is
>>> a soft dog, who needs a lot of encouragement.
>>>
>>> I'd also work with the kids and kids parents if available.  If the
>>> kids are at least 4 or 5, they should be able to understand how to
>>> interact with dogs.  It sounds like these kids are excited to see the
> dog, but
>>> unsure of what to do or how to appropriately interact.   I'd try to show
>>> them as much as the language barrier allowed.  Do you know anyone who
>>> could translate for you?
>>>
>>> With most kids, I've found addressing the initial excitement and
>>> giving specific rules about when and how it's okay to interact, helps
>>> the kids be calm and appropriate around my dogs.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
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