[NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 146, Issue 10

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Wed May 10 19:25:30 UTC 2017


No, a pool area is not like any other terrain in that it is hot; there is
the possibility that folks have left food trash there. The dog might take
exception to your going into the pool. But mainly, if it is an outdoor pool,
I would say you would want to be very, very careful about the heat. There is
paving along the pool which makes it hotter, and sun reflects off water.
Cindy Lou Ray
cindyray at gmail.com


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Subject: Re: [NAGDU] NAGDU Digest, Vol 146, Issue 10

A pool area is like any other terrain.  It's about training.  Metuka settles
in when I swim.  I just clip her leash to a chair or object, put a towel
down for her, and down she goes.  Enjoy yourself!
Peter
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> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 08:55:35 -0400
> From: "NAGDU President" <blind411 at verizon.net>
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> Ricky,
> 
> 	You ask a very good question. According to the Americans with 
> Disabilities Act, the pool is a place of public accommodation. Covered 
> entities must modify their policies, practices, and procedures to 
> allow individuals accompanied by service animals the same access as 
> others. This means that, even though there may be a "No Petss" policy, 
> they are required by law to modify this policy so as to provide you 
> the same access. Since the modification of policies, practices, and 
> procedures are required by law and they cannot refuse or limit your 
> access, there is no need to give any sort of advance notice. You are 
> not required to ask permission, or provide any sort of documentation 
> that your dog is a service dog. Your dog is not allowed to go into the 
> pool, though, as health department regulations prohibit this and the 
> implementing regulations of the ADA would likely consider this a direct
threat.
> 
> 	Individuals differ on whether or not it is wise to take your dog to
a 
> pool area. Since it is your choice, I would say that, as long as your 
> dog is comfortable, has shade, if needed, go ahead and take it. I have 
> taken my dog to pools - both public and complex areas - and they have 
> always been okay. Please let us know how your pup fares!
> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU) National 
> Federation of the Blind
> (813) 626-2789
> President at NAGDU.ORG
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ricky Joe 
> Cook via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 10:13 PM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: rickyjoecook at comcast.net
> Subject: [NAGDU] Have a question
> 
> Hi all, I have a legal question that I need help with. I live in a 55 
> + community and we have a pool for the community. I wanted to know if 
> I can bring Darcy with me to the pool and put her on tie down while I 
> swim? They ban pets of course but I wanted to know how I should handle 
> this. I would of course put her under an umbrella and have something 
> for her to lay on. Or is it better to get there by cane and leave her
home.
> 
> Do any of you have experience with anything like this.
> 
> If I do decide to take her how would you advice I approach the 
> community administrator about bringing her. Should I quote from any ADA
law?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 07:59:17 -0500
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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> My biggest concern taking the dog to the pool was people feeding it, 
> and one dog I had took issue with me being in the pool. I think 
> currently I wouldn't do it anymore, though I might under certain
circumstances.
> 
> Cindy Lou Ray
> cindyray at gmail.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raul A. 
> Gallegos via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 10:41 PM
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> Cc: Raul A. Gallegos <raul at raulgallegos.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Have a question
> 
> Hello Ricky, you have every right to take your dog to the pool. So, I 
> don't believe you need to approach anyone about the laws unless it's 
> brought up first. That being said, I don't think I would take my dog 
> to the pool area even though I can legally do so. If I was constantly 
> wondering if my dog is doing okay, not being bothered, and not feeling 
> uncomfortable, I wouldn't enjoy myself I don't think.
> 
> 
> I hope this helps.
> 
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> 
> On 5/8/2017 9:12 PM, Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hi all, I have a legal question that I need help with. I live in a 55 
>> +
> community and we have a pool for the community. I wanted to know if I 
> can bring Darcy with me to the pool and put her on tie down while I 
> swim? They ban pets of course but I wanted to know how I should handle 
> this. I would of course put her under an umbrella and have something 
> for her to lay on. Or is it better to get there by cane and leave her
home.
>> 
>> Do any of you have experience with anything like this.
>> 
>> If I do decide to take her how would you advice I approach the 
>> community
> administrator about bringing her. Should I quote from any ADA law?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
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> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 09:23:39 -0400
> From: Danielle Sykora <dsykora29 at gmail.com>
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> If there is a serious concern of people petting/feeding the dog, you 
> could try putting the dog in a collapsible crate. Though it isn't 
> impossible for people to interact with the dog in a crate, there is a 
> physical barrier between them which makes it a lot more difficult.
> 
> Danielle and Thai
> 
> On 5/9/17, Cindy Ray via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> My biggest concern taking the dog to the pool was people feeding it, 
>> and one dog I had took issue with me being in the pool. I think 
>> currently I wouldn't do it anymore, though I might under certain 
>> circumstances.
>> 
>> Cindy Lou Ray
>> cindyray at gmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raul A. 
>> Gallegos via NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 10:41 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Raul A. Gallegos <raul at raulgallegos.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Have a question
>> 
>> Hello Ricky, you have every right to take your dog to the pool. So, I 
>> don't believe you need to approach anyone about the laws unless it's 
>> brought up first. That being said, I don't think I would take my dog 
>> to the pool area even though I can legally do so. If I was constantly 
>> wondering if my dog is doing okay, not being bothered, and not 
>> feeling uncomfortable, I wouldn't enjoy myself I don't think.
>> 
>> 
>> I hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text:
>> 832.554.7285
>> Office: 832.639.4477
>> Personal Email: raul at raulgallegos.com Work Email: training at rgats.com
>> Twitter: @rga7285 and @RGATrainer
>> 
>> "Any teacher that can be replaced with a computer, deserves to be." - 
>> David Thornburg
>> 
>> On 5/8/2017 9:12 PM, Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU wrote:
>>> Hi all, I have a legal question that I need help with. I live in a 
>>> 55 +
>> community and we have a pool for the community. I wanted to know if I 
>> can bring Darcy with me to the pool and put her on tie down while I 
>> swim? They ban pets of course but I wanted to know how I should 
>> handle this. I would of course put her under an umbrella and have 
>> something for her to lay on. Or is it better to get there by cane and 
>> leave her home.
>>> 
>>> Do any of you have experience with anything like this.
>>> 
>>> If I do decide to take her how would you advice I approach the 
>>> community
>> administrator about bringing her. Should I quote from any ADA law?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 09:24:03 -0400
> From: David <david at bakerinet.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Have a question
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> I would think you have the right to have your pup accompany you to the 
> pool and you do not have to ask anyone.  To me, the issue would 
> involve how my dog handles being on a tie-down.  The precociousness of 
> children and the ability of adults to respect Darcy's status might be 
> an issue, too, but a harness sign might help with that.  It might give 
> you a chance to educate your neighbors.
> 
> I've never left Claire Rose in the 22 months we've been together, 
> except when I've headed into a store with a cane, and then she is in 
> the car with my wife.  (Swimming pool supply stores have too many 
> chemicals for me to feel comfortable having her with me in them.)  I 
> may have done that five or six times. Even in the hospital, she was 
> with me as we wandered around on a gurney getting tests.  Since the 
> doors in the hallways were so narrow, they just had her hop up on the 
> gurney with me.  We did get a lot of funny looks and some cute comments
from staff.
> I'm sure the image, her lying beside me with her head on my shoulder, 
> must have startled a few folks.
> 
> While I could trust her alone in the house, I've just never done that.
> 
> In the event that you are challenged, you can show the ADA rules 
> and/or state law.
> 
> David and Claire Rose in Clearwater, FL
> 
> On 5/8/2017 10:12 PM, Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU wrote:
>> Hi all, I have a legal question that I need help with. I live in a 55 +
community and we have a pool for the community. I wanted to know if I can
bring Darcy with me to the pool and put her on tie down while I swim? They
ban pets of course but I wanted to know how I should handle this. I would of
course put her under an umbrella and have something for her to lay on. Or is
it better to get there by cane and leave her home.
>> 
>> Do any of you have experience with anything like this.
>> 
>> If I do decide to take her how would you advice I approach the community
administrator about bringing her. Should I quote from any ADA law?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 22:32:55 -0500
> From: Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU <shardy at nfbtx.org>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Have a question
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> Hello there, when I had my first guy dog, I took him to a public pool
once. I had no issues. However, if it were me, I think I would elect to
leave my dog at home and take a cane to the pool. I'm not sure where you
live, but in Texas, it gets unbelievably hot. So whether you have an
umbrella or a towel on the ground the dog will still be hot. These are just
my thoughts. Good luck.
> 
> 
> --
> Stacie Hardy <shardy at nfbtx.org>
> President: NFB of Texas Houston Chapter Voice and Text: (346) 704-0190 
> or (832) 779-7477
> 
> "A question never asked is an answer never known"
> "Live the life you want!"
> 
> 
>> On May 8, 2017, at 9:12 PM, Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I have a legal question that I need help with. I live in a 55 +
community and we have a pool for the community. I wanted to know if I can
bring Darcy with me to the pool and put her on tie down while I swim? They
ban pets of course but I wanted to know how I should handle this. I would of
course put her under an umbrella and have something for her to lay on. Or is
it better to get there by cane and leave her home.
>> 
>> Do any of you have experience with anything like this.
>> 
>> If I do decide to take her how would you advice I approach the community
administrator about bringing her. Should I quote from any ADA law?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 09 May 2017 08:37:49 -0700
> From: Gary Steeves <rainshadowmusic at shaw.ca>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>,	Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU via NAGDU
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Have a question
> Message-ID: <6EC1FF28-649D-4484-9339-387C8B52B7C9 at shaw.ca>
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> 
> hi:
> 
> when I was taking some swimming lessons, or is that adult education 
> :), I talked to the pool ahead of time to ask if they. could keep 
> Bogart in their office.  usually I found. that the people. working 
> there are dog overs.  Bogart didn't have problems being left with nice 
> women.  if they had any issues they knew where I was.  I'd then use my 
> came to navigate the change rooms and get out to the pool.  I don't 
> think Bogart would have suffered being on a tie down by the pool while 
> his master was obviously close to drowning. :)
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> On May 8, 2017 8:32:55 PM PDT, Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU via NAGDU
<nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hello there, when I had my first guy dog, I took him to a public pool 
>> once. I had no issues. However, if it were me, I think I would elect 
>> to leave my dog at home and take a cane to the pool. I'm not sure 
>> where you live, but in Texas, it gets unbelievably hot. So whether 
>> you have an umbrella or a towel on the ground the dog will still be 
>> hot. These are just my thoughts. Good luck.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Stacie Hardy <shardy at nfbtx.org>
>> President: NFB of Texas Houston Chapter Voice and Text: (346) 
>> 704-0190 or (832) 779-7477
>> 
>> "A question never asked is an answer never known"
>> "Live the life you want!"
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 8, 2017, at 9:12 PM, Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I have a legal question that I need help with. I live in a 
>>> 55
>> + community and we have a pool for the community. I wanted to know if 
>> + I
>> can bring Darcy with me to the pool and put her on tie down while I 
>> swim? They ban pets of course but I wanted to know how I should 
>> handle this. I would of course put her under an umbrella and have 
>> something for her to lay on. Or is it better to get there by cane and 
>> leave her home.
>>> 
>>> Do any of you have experience with anything like this.
>>> 
>>> If I do decide to take her how would you advice I approach the
>> community administrator about bringing her. Should I quote from any 
>> ADA law?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
>>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 13:06:26 -0500
> From: "Jordan Gallacher" <jordanandbelto at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Have a question
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> Down here in Louisiana and when I visit my girlfriend in Florida, it 
> is just too hot to let Belto sit in the sun if I am at the pool.
> Jordan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stacie 
> Hardy - NFBHOU via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 10:33 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Have a question
> 
> Hello there, when I had my first guy dog, I took him to a public pool
once.
> I had no issues. However, if it were me, I think I would elect to 
> leave my dog at home and take a cane to the pool. I'm not sure where 
> you live, but in Texas, it gets unbelievably hot. So whether you have 
> an umbrella or a towel on the ground the dog will still be hot. These 
> are just my thoughts. Good luck.
> 
> 
> --
> Stacie Hardy <shardy at nfbtx.org>
> President: NFB of Texas Houston Chapter Voice and Text: (346) 704-0190 
> or (832) 779-7477
> 
> "A question never asked is an answer never known"
> "Live the life you want!"
> 
> 
>> On May 8, 2017, at 9:12 PM, Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all, I have a legal question that I need help with. I live in a 55 
>> +
> community and we have a pool for the community. I wanted to know if I 
> can bring Darcy with me to the pool and put her on tie down while I 
> swim? They ban pets of course but I wanted to know how I should handle 
> this. I would of course put her under an umbrella and have something 
> for her to lay on. Or is it better to get there by cane and leave her
home.
>> 
>> Do any of you have experience with anything like this.
>> 
>> If I do decide to take her how would you advice I approach the 
>> community
> administrator about bringing her. Should I quote from any ADA law?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
>> _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 13:22:59 -0500
> From: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com>
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> Hi all,
> I agree with Jordan. It?s much too hot here in Louisiana for a dog to be
on tie down at an outdoor pool. The only issue I have with taking a dog to a
pool is that the law does say that the dog must be under the direct control
of the handler at all times, which may not apply to a tie down or crate,
since you cannot immediately reach your dog in a situation that might arise.
That is one consideration I would make before taking my dog. Someone with
enough knowledge of the law could argue that the dog is not under direct
control.
> Aleeha and Whitley
>> On May 9, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Jordan Gallacher via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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>> Down here in Louisiana and when I visit my girlfriend in Florida, it 
>> is just too hot to let Belto sit in the sun if I am at the pool.
>> Jordan
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Stacie 
>> Hardy - NFBHOU via NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, May 8, 2017 10:33 PM
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>> Cc: Stacie Hardy - NFBHOU
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Have a question
>> 
>> Hello there, when I had my first guy dog, I took him to a public pool
once.
>> I had no issues. However, if it were me, I think I would elect to 
>> leave my dog at home and take a cane to the pool. I'm not sure where 
>> you live, but in Texas, it gets unbelievably hot. So whether you have 
>> an umbrella or a towel on the ground the dog will still be hot. These 
>> are just my thoughts. Good luck.
>> 
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>> Stacie Hardy <shardy at nfbtx.org>
>> President: NFB of Texas Houston Chapter Voice and Text: (346) 
>> 704-0190 or (832) 779-7477
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>> "A question never asked is an answer never known"
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>>> On May 8, 2017, at 9:12 PM, Ricky Joe Cook via NAGDU 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all, I have a legal question that I need help with. I live in a 
>>> 55 +
>> community and we have a pool for the community. I wanted to know if I 
>> can bring Darcy with me to the pool and put her on tie down while I 
>> swim? They ban pets of course but I wanted to know how I should 
>> handle this. I would of course put her under an umbrella and have 
>> something for her to lay on. Or is it better to get there by cane and
leave her home.
>>> 
>>> Do any of you have experience with anything like this.
>>> 
>>> If I do decide to take her how would you advice I approach the 
>>> community
>> administrator about bringing her. Should I quote from any ADA law?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
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