[NAGDU] Loose Dog

Wed Nov 22 15:29:17 UTC 2017

I’m sorry to say but, i am pretty ruthless when stuff like this happens to me.
i will do whatever it takes to get the dog away from me and my guide.
that includes shooing it away, stomping feet, saying no in a firm voice, hitting the strange dog with the buckle end of my leash, kicking the dog, crossing a busy street in hopes that the dog won’t follow, etc.
i have absolutely no sympathy for loose dogs that could be potentially dangerous.  if the owner doesn’t care enough about their dog to keep it leashed or fenced, then, i don’t care either.
harsh, but, it works.
i agree, the police don’t care about loose dogs.  unless they attack a person and, then, it’s after the fact.

Vivianna

> On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> That's not too surprising.  They're probably thinking in terms of a loose
> dog following someone, and not in terms of how much trouble that can be for
> a blind person who needs their guide not to be bothered or distracted. It
> requires an extra step in thinking, and most sighted people don't take that
> extra step, in my experience.
> Tracy
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Loose Dog
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> 				I'm not sure the police care. Not to be
> unkind, I just don't think they do. 
> I've noticed that when I used dogs, the police never cared about dog related
> issues, conversely they care greatly about non dog related issues. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: Ricky Joe Cook <rickyjoecook at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Loose Dog
> 
> Rachel, I would have called the police and said that you were blind and you
> had a dog bothering you and your guide dog and that you were stranded
> because you couldn't safely work your dog because the other dog wouldn't go
> away and that it was trying to mount your dog. They may have been able to
> come and get the dog away from you long enough for you to continue on your
> way. Plus they might have been able to find out who the dog belonged to and
> have given them a ticket for having a dog off leash if that applys where you
> live.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Ricky Joe Cook & Darcy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Grider via NAGDU
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 7:22 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Rachel Grider
> Subject: [NAGDU] Loose Dog
> 
> Hi, Guys:
> 
> I hope you and your dogs are doing well.
> 
> Demi and I had a somewhat scary and annoying experience yesterday.  As we
> were walking only about a block away from my house, a loose pit bull came
> charging up to us.  Luckily, he wasn't aggressive, but he literally would
> not leave Demi alone; he kept trying to mount her, and, though I did
> everything to try and get him to leave us alone, he kept following us.  I
> would shoo him away, and he would back off for a second, allowing Demi and I
> to resume our progress, but then Demi would literally stop and turn around
> while in harness because her little buddy would be trying to mount her
> again.  No amount of correcting Demi or shooing him would get him to leave.
> Demi actually gave him a couple unfriendly barks, which is something I have
> never heard her do, but it didn't phase him.
> 
> We continued like this for another block before I decided that it was just
> too unsafe to do it anymore, so I called animal control.
> To make a long story short, a couple ladies saw me having trouble with the
> dog, got a leash, and put him in their yard to wait for animal control to
> pick him up.  Apparently, it took three hours for someone to come, and if it
> hadn't been for these ladies, I don't know what I would have done, as the
> whole episode almost made me late for work as it was, and I would not have
> been able to wait that long.
> 
> So my question to you guys is: What have you done in a situation where a dog
> with no owner around continually interferes with your dog's work no matter
> what you do? I will also mention that I even tried giving him commands like
> "sit" and "down," but he didn't seem to understand; after I had determined
> that he really was friendly, I found that I could get him to chill by
> petting his head, but as soon as I would stop, he would go right back to
> messing with Demi.  I suppose I should have had my cane with me, which is
> something I try to do anyway, but I will make a point to have one in my
> backpack all the time from now on.  Even if I had been able to get away from
> him, I would not have wanted to just leave him to possibly get hit by a car
> or to bother other people.
> 
> Anyway, I appreciate any thoughts you may have.
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving!
> 
> Rachel
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