[NAGDU] fines for bad behavior

[d m gina]

Original It seems to me, if questions are not asked, then we will be 
back to where we started from.
All pets will be on the plane, and folks can get bit once again.
The problem needs to stop at each air port before they even get a 
chance to walk in to get any kind of ticket.
Even if they get the ticket on line.
To be stopped with a guard there, and someone who knows all of the 
rules on behalf of the request of the air lines.
Or tell the person the only way set pet can fly is in cargo.
If they don't have the money for cargo, then they need to leave set 
animal at home.
Just my thoughts.
message:
> Dear All,

>         The National Asssociation of Guide Dog Users does not have an 
> official  position on this issue. My personal opinion is that these 
> laws, though possibly a deterrent to those who would misrepresent their 
> pets as service animals to gain access to public places where pets are 
> generally not allowed, are unenforceable. The Americans with 
> Disabilities act prohibits public entities and private entities that 
> provide public accommodations from making specific inquiries about the 
> nature or extent of a person’s disability or asking for identification 
> or other documentation that an animal has been trained. This means that 
> a law enforcement officer, as an agent of a public entity, may not make 
> such inquiries beyond the two allowed by the implementing 
> regulations:1. Is this a service animal required because of a 
> disability? and 2. what task or work has the animal been trained to perform?

>         This raises the question of how it will be determined a person 
> is misrepresenting themselves as a person with a disability and the dog 
> as a service animal? I perceive the only way this sort of measure might 
> be enforced would be if a person were denied access with their animal, 
> file a charge against the establishment, and when the court asked for 
> proof the individual had standing to pursue the charges, found that 
> there was no evidence the dog had been trained. In other words, I think 
> it is highly unlikely this measure will ever be enforced.

>         These things being said, I believe a better approach is to 
> educate businesses as to their rights to exclude dogs that are not 
> under control and what, exactly the definition and application of 
> “direct threat” means  under the ADA and state law.

>         I would be open to hearing your thoughts and suggestions on this issue.

> Fraternally yours,
> Marion


> Marion Gwizdala, President
> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc. (NAGDU)
> National Federation of the Blind
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: [NAGDU] fines for bad behavior

> Washington House Approves Fines For People Who Lie About Non-Trained 
> Service Animals By Doug Nadvornick • Feb 8, 2018 
> http://spokanepublicradio.org/post/washington-house-approves-fines-people-who-lie-about-non-trained-service-animals

> People with trained service animals helped write a bill in the 
> Washington legislature that would fine owners who fraudulently claim 
> their animals are trained.
> Credit Spokane Cares
> The Washington House has taken a step toward punishing people who 
> misrepresent their animals as service animals.

> The chamber on Thursday approved a bill that gives law enforcement 
> officers the right to question animal owners if it’s not obvious the 
> person has a disability. If it’s determined the owner is lying, the 
> officer can write a ticket that carries a fine of up to $500.

> Supporters say many people take advantage of the federal law that 
> allows trained service animals to accompany their owners anywhere.

> “When we start having issues in our grocery stores, our libraries, our 
> restaurants, where people are bringing in not only service dogs that 
> are not service dogs, but also other animals, animals such as a snake 
> or a cat and trying to misrepresent them as service animals, then we 
> have trouble for citizens and for especially those in the disabled 
> community who support this bill,” said Rep. Joan McBride (D-Kirkland).

> Rep. Vincent Buys (R-Lynden) says people with trained service animals 
> helped to craft the bill.

> “Having non-trained service animals or emotional service animals, 
> emotional support animals, it is very distracting and I think it does a 
> disservice to those citizens that need that support," Buys said.

> The vote in the House was unanimous. The bill now moves to the Senate.



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