[NAGDU] Do you have a cane whet walking with a guide dog?

Thu Aug 29 13:20:15 UTC 2019

In the US, people don't typically use a cane while working a guide dog. Infrastructure is more predictable and accessible, but I also think it might be philisophical differences between countries. 
That isn’t to say people never under any circumstances use a cane while working a dog. Sometimes instructors teach students to use there cane to check the right edge  when walking on the right side of a sidewalkless road for example. You might need to use your cane to locate a target your dog isn't familiar with, in order to teach it to them for future used
I personally carry a folding cane with me in some situations in a backpack or something. One such situation would be in the snow, where I can use my cane to help assess whether we can climb over that snow drift the dog just stopped for, or if we need to take a longer detour around it.
danielle   

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> On Aug 29, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have heard that, in some European countries, blind people carry an ID cane
> just to let other people know they are blind.  They wave the ID cane before
> crossing a street, as I understand it.  I saw a couple of these canes at the
> Seeing Eye reunion.  They were really short, and telescoping, so were pretty
> easy to carry.  And I think they also had a wrist strap, so as to leave the
> hand free most of the time.  But it's still another thing hanging on my arm,
> or in my only free hand.  I'm not real sold on the idea.
> Tracy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lisa via NAGDU
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 8:42 AM
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> Cc: Lisa
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Do you have a cane whet walking with a guide dog?
> 
> Hi Tarzan,
> 
> 
> this is Lisa from Germany.
> 
> I know people who use their cane for certain tasks while working their 
> dog. In some European countries it is even mandatory. I think Sweden and 
> also in Austria.
> 
> 
> When I started training with my dog, I was given the opportunity to 
> decide whether to use the cane or not. I decided against it. I do carry 
> a cane in my bag most of the time, just in case. But I basically never 
> use it when I'm out and about with my dog.
> 
> An O&M instructor once adviced me to use the cane while getting on and 
> off a train. But I quickly found that for me, it's much safer and easier 
> to do it just with the dog. I don't know why, because technically it 
> sounds reasonable to use the cane to find out how big the gap to the 
> platform is and so on. But it just works better for me to follow the dog 
> off and on the train.
> 
> 
> Lisa
>> Am 29.08.2019 um 14:26 schrieb Melissa Allman via NAGDU:
>> Hi Tarzan. This recently came up at a presentation I attended. In the
> early days of guide dog schools, people were taught to carry and use their
> canes for certain things while working with their dogs. Gradually that
> changed as infrastructure in the U.S. became more predictable. I am told
> that in Europe it is still more common to see people using their canes for
> specific things while working their dogs but others may have different
> information.
>> 
>> Personally, I always try to carry a cane in my bag just in case I need it
> for some reason. Thanks for raising this interesting topic.
>> 
>> Melissa R. Allman
>> Senior Specialist, Advocacy and Government Relations
>> The Seeing Eye, Inc.
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>> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 7:17 AM
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>> Cc: Dr.dbTarzan
>> Subject: [NAGDU] Do you have a cane whet walking with a guide dog?
>> 
>> My name is Tarzan from Japan.
>> 
>> I have a question.
>> 
>> Some users hava a cane when walking with a guide dog. Others not.
>> Do you have a cane in such situation?
>> 
>> 
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