[NAGDU] Three advantages to use a cane at walking with a guide dog.

[Dar]

The cane I was speaking about is a walking cane. 
Yes you could use a small regular cane as I have for small balance problems going up and down curbs. 
Wanted something that would be small enough to put in a bag, where walking canes tend to not stay folded. 
Or the bag gets so heavy you get slowed down in walking.


Dar 
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> On Aug 30, 2019, at 7:22 PM, Julie Johnson via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> My thoughts...
> 1. Defending the user's body
> The cane, not user's body, hit the obstacle even if the dog failed to escape it.
> Julie:  Well, this is how I do things with a dog I am training, or I set up obstacles where I know where they are and can anticipate.  However, with a fully trained guide, I expect they will stop to indicate or go around obstacles automatically.  If I am making contact with things, something has gone wrong. I will correct, rework or completely retrain as needed.
> 
> 2. Getting information
> User can get any information with a cane.
> For example, steps, grooves, curbs, etc.
> Julie: Yes, but the dog should be able to stop to indicate these things. Probing out with a foot or hand typically gives the additional info needed. I do find with a new guide that a cane can be useful to figure out what he is indicating, but I would only get it out as needed, not to be continually used. I carry a cane with me for the first few months with a new dog and always when I travel away from home.
> 
> 3. Calling attenstion to those around the user
> Let people know that i do not walk a dog, walk with a guide dog.
> So, poople should take care of me!
> Julie: I think people know that I am walking with a guide dog and by extension that I am blind.  If they don't, I don't really care.  So long as I am extended the same courtesy as other pedestrians, I am satisfied.  If I need directions or something, I'll ask.  I can't think of anything else I would need for people to do for me  that would be different than what they would do for other customers.
> 
> Of course, pedestrian laws, traffic patterns, pathways and so on are different in different countries.  It could be that my experiences are not what could be reasonably expected in other places.  If what you are doing is working for you, then by all means do that.
> 
> Julie
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> -----Original Message----- From: Dr.dbTarzan via NAGDU
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> Subject: [NAGDU] Three advantages to use a cane at walking with a guide dog.
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> Hi, I'm Tarzan from Japan.
> 
> I wonder there are three advantages to use a cane at walking with a guide dog.
> 
> 1. Defending the user's body
> The cane, not user's body, hit the obstacle even if the dog failed to escape it.
> 
> 2. Getting information
> User can get any information with a cane.
> For example, steps, grooves, curbs, etc.
> 
> 3. Calling attenstion to those around the user
> Let people know that i do not walk a dog, walk with a guide dog.
> So, poople should take care of me!
> 
> There make user's walking safer.
> 
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