[NAGDU] AKC
Peter Wolf
pwolf1 at wolfskills.com
Sat Aug 8 16:02:35 UTC 2020
We haven’t done AKC’s “obedience”, as in any form of competition. But for grins, we went through the AKC Good Citizen course. It wasn’t a competition. It wasn’t a basic obediance class which of of course wouldn’t have been of interest to us. Instead, it turned out to be an excellent tune-up supplement to our original training. There was some basic obediance stuff, but in an environment, of tremendous induced distraction.
By this, I mean, in two ways - - - both of them in terms of becoming an even better well-greased machine of a team together in distracting environments. The first was distraction built into the course itself. There was a fair amount of work where they put us through focus walking together amidst a surrounding of noise and opportunities for startle distractions, such as folks walking around with kids toys like the quacking duck towed on a rope, jumbles of rattling junk going by, wheelchairs zig-zagging amongst us, and people lifting and dropping the back wheels of derelict shopping carts on the ground next to us (bang, bang, bang), as they spiraled around us or came through from behind. It was actually a really cool tuning, especially because we were good at it by the nature of our training already. It added another grounding angle on how well we were doing with distraction.
The second aspect of benefit, was that we were trained professionals…thrown into a room half populated with idiots. Everyone else there were civilians…some who should have had basic obediance a long time before entering this class. Amongs them were barkers, yappers, and snarlers. Safe and under leash control of course as demanded and reinforced by the instructor… But like for many of us working teams, like a bad day walking through ESA challenges at the airport. As many of us know, it’s only part the dog. There were some real idiots; who as handlers were oblivious. Their dogs constantly going off was a function a lot like the irony we see in bad ESA dog behavior, for which the cure would be obediance training, but even more, psychotherapy for the owner. This occasion was really good for us, because it presented us, in an enclosed space, over a period of time, a lot of challenges concentrated in a good way to tune little edges on our training that made us even better.
We all get our edge dulled over time just in living. I can certainily feel it now just by the lowered amount of travel, and interactions, in daily life from the Covid business. I’ve always noticed how the more Metukah and I work together, the better we are just as a matter of course. If you ever feel that you’d like to sharpen your pencil so to speak, I’d recommend dipping back into a little training. For us, particularly because of how we were professionally dialed in together, it was a neat experience.
-Peter
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> Hello, I was wondering if any of you have participated in AKC or
> United Kennel Club obedience competitions? The question about dog
> sports made me wonder. Can program trained guide dogs participate in
> these events? Thanks for your responses, Gretchen Brown
> Gretch99Brown at gmail.com
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>> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 10:00:40 -0500
>> From: Shanna Stichler <slstich at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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>> Typically, a workshop can range in length from a few hours to an entire
>> weekend. It just depends on the seminar, but that part is usually on the
>> registration page. As with any dog sport, there's no reason a guide dog
>> couldn't participate, but it's important to take your dog's temperament
>> and drive into account before signing up. I, personally, don't start any
>> dog sports with my guides until they've been working well for 6 months,
>> just to be sure they are comfortable with their real job before I start
>> teaching them things that may be contrary to guide dog work.
>>
>>
>> When I take guide dogs to events like this, I bring a crate for them for
>> safety. This is common practice for all dog handlers at these events. I
>> don't expect them to work when they go for the first time. Most of the
>> dogs their will not be as well-trained as the typical guide dog, so I
>> just would rather crate my dog and use a cane around a bunch of amped
>> up, possibly reactive, strange dogs. I should clarify that I work my
>> dogs if I'm only going to watch, but not if the dog and I are planning
>> to train/participate. Also, it's always a good idea to bring a spotter
>> because the person running the workshop may or may not have time to work
>> with you individually. Or, frankly, they may be uncomfortable doing so.
>> I only bring this up because it has happened to me, and I wasn't at all
>> prepared for the experience.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, if you have a dog who likes to retrieve, he/she will have tons
>> of fun with Disc Dog stuff. Participating in dog sports has been a great
>> way to strengthen the bond between me and my guides, and also gave them
>> another constructive outlet for their drive, which is especially
>> important during this time of Covid restrictions. Feel free to let me
>> know if you have any other questions. If you decide to give the workshop
>> a try, I'm sure a lot of us would love to know how it goes!
>>
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Shanna Stichler, PHD, IACP #7565, CSDTA (IACP)
>>
>> and Diamond vom Heulenluft, BH, APR2 CGCU, CDX, WSD
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>> On 7/27/2020 8:37 AM, Monse via NAGDU wrote:
>>> Hi. It's a game in which you play flying disc fetch with your dog. You
>>> throw
>>> the disc, the dog catches it and returns to you. It's good for dogs and
>>> especially for labs because it involves their natural prey drive. They
>>> have
>>> a lot of fun chasing moving objects. So I'd like to know if someone has
>>> done this with your guide and how it went.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Original message
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good morning.
>>>
>>> What is a disc workshop? What would your dog and you do there? Is the
>>> workshop a one shot deal or a series of training classes?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>> <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com> cindyray at gmail.com
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>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all, hope you and your pups are doing good.
>>>
>>> I'm considering taking a disc dog workshop and was wondering if any of
>>> you
>>> have done this or some other canine sport with your guide so that you
>>> could
>>> share your experiences with me.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> Hi Gretchen,
> I used to know someone who did competition obedience with their guide. They
> said NOT to do the same "heel" command as for pets. Our dogs dont want to
> lose the pulling out training we rely on for guiding. The rest of the
> commands are fine.
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> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 6:12 AM Gretchen Brown via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
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>> Hello, I was wondering if any of you have participated in AKC or
>> United Kennel Club obedience competitions? The question about dog
>> sports made me wonder. Can program trained guide dogs participate in
>> these events? Thanks for your responses, Gretchen Brown
>> Gretch99Brown at gmail.com
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2020 10:00:40 -0500
>>> From: Shanna Stichler <slstich at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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>>> Cc: Monse <monse_v at aol.com.mx>
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>>> Typically, a workshop can range in length from a few hours to an entire
>>> weekend. It just depends on the seminar, but that part is usually on the
>>> registration page. As with any dog sport, there's no reason a guide dog
>>> couldn't participate, but it's important to take your dog's temperament
>>> and drive into account before signing up. I, personally, don't start any
>>> dog sports with my guides until they've been working well for 6 months,
>>> just to be sure they are comfortable with their real job before I start
>>> teaching them things that may be contrary to guide dog work.
>>>
>>>
>>> When I take guide dogs to events like this, I bring a crate for them for
>>> safety. This is common practice for all dog handlers at these events. I
>>> don't expect them to work when they go for the first time. Most of the
>>> dogs their will not be as well-trained as the typical guide dog, so I
>>> just would rather crate my dog and use a cane around a bunch of amped
>>> up, possibly reactive, strange dogs. I should clarify that I work my
>>> dogs if I'm only going to watch, but not if the dog and I are planning
>>> to train/participate. Also, it's always a good idea to bring a spotter
>>> because the person running the workshop may or may not have time to work
>>> with you individually. Or, frankly, they may be uncomfortable doing so.
>>> I only bring this up because it has happened to me, and I wasn't at all
>>> prepared for the experience.
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, if you have a dog who likes to retrieve, he/she will have tons
>>> of fun with Disc Dog stuff. Participating in dog sports has been a great
>>> way to strengthen the bond between me and my guides, and also gave them
>>> another constructive outlet for their drive, which is especially
>>> important during this time of Covid restrictions. Feel free to let me
>>> know if you have any other questions. If you decide to give the workshop
>>> a try, I'm sure a lot of us would love to know how it goes!
>>>
>>>
>>> Take care,
>>>
>>> Shanna Stichler, PHD, IACP #7565, CSDTA (IACP)
>>>
>>> and Diamond vom Heulenluft, BH, APR2 CGCU, CDX, WSD
>>>
>>> On 7/27/2020 8:37 AM, Monse via NAGDU wrote:
>>>> Hi. It's a game in which you play flying disc fetch with your dog. You
>>>> throw
>>>> the disc, the dog catches it and returns to you. It's good for dogs and
>>>> especially for labs because it involves their natural prey drive. They
>>>> have
>>>> a lot of fun chasing moving objects. So I'd like to know if someone has
>>>> done this with your guide and how it went.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Original message
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good morning.
>>>>
>>>> What is a disc workshop? What would your dog and you do there? Is the
>>>> workshop a one shot deal or a series of training classes?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>
>>>> <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com> cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello all, hope you and your pups are doing good.
>>>>
>>>> I'm considering taking a disc dog workshop and was wondering if any of
>>>> you
>>>> have done this or some other canine sport with your guide so that you
>>>> could
>>>> share your experiences with me.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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