[NAGDU] Julie, re; energy and chewing

Tue Jan 14 22:51:09 UTC 2020

Julie,

Dogs just need exercise, and some stimulation.  They are so good at melding with us and our lifestyle, so cooperative and pleased to be in relationship.  That’s why I agree that being with you may help when there could have instead been tie-down moments.  As for exercise, they just really do need to blow off steam periodically.  That means, in my house, that sometimes I have to go out when I don’t really want to…break my comfort zone.  

Andrea particularly likes to get the girls to the beach, which we are fortunate to be only 20 minutes from.  There’s a mile long privately owned beach that is dog on or off leash friendly.  The girls have excellent recall, so we let them run.  Personally, while I swim and dive, I just don’t like walking on the beach.  Boring.  I put up with it.  But man, the girls are so much better after they’ve gotten to hit the throttle and romp for even a little while.  

So I’d suggest, to tame your beast in a whole bunch of ways, get some rain gear, including one for the dog if necessary, and find a way to get out, somewhere, anywhere, to get some movement going.  The difference is quite noticeable to us.  

Cheers,
Peter

Connecting With the Wisdom of the Earth
Executive & individual coaching, consultation, and nature-based facilitation
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>   3. Re: Guide Dogs and Office Jobs (Sandra Gayer)
>   4. Re: Guide Dogs and Office Jobs (Sandra Gayer)
>   5. Re: Guide Dogs and Office Jobs (Newton, Cherie)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 08:16:27 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
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> Hi Danielle.
> Ooo, notes from class!  I love reading about other people's class
> experiences.  Sure hope you do find a little time to write.
> Tracy
> 
>> Thanks everyone! I am bringing a computer and will try to write in.
>> 
>> On 1/10/20, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Congratulations!  Hope everything goes great!
>>> Tracy
>>> 
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>>> Ledet
>>> via NAGDU
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>>> Subject: [NAGDU] My Class Date
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>>> Hey Everyone,
>>> I will be training at GEB in the Feb. 3. I will be leaving on Feb. 2
>>> and returning on Feb. 23.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:30:56 -0500
> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> Hi all,
> 
> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
> 
> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly
> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as
> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 8-5
> here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew
> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many
> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when
> someone calls or comes in my office.
> 
> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them
> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by sniffing
> at my roommate when she is at the table.
> 
> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the
> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed
> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he
> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't
> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for
> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a
> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
> 
> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it
> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, and
> that is very rare.
> 
> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get
> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to
> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm
> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff
> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month
> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or
> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow me
> around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of
> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the root
> of the problem.
> 
> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what
> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his
> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has
> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand this,
> I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Julie A. McGinnity
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
> Blind Performing Arts Division
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:57:22 +0000
> From: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> 
> Hello Julie,
> If it was your first year, everyone I've known with guide dogs always
> say the first year's the hardest. Some people have also said the first
> year's from hell.
> 
> I haven't got a guide dog but I have ordinary dogs. Free running helps
> burn off the extra energy. Could he be let loose in your garden when
> you're at home and do his own thing sometimes? Playing with him, doing
> drill and, in short, tiring him out may help with the bord so I'll
> explore thingy.
> 
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
> 
> On 1/13/20, Julie McGinnity via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
>> 
>> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly
>> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as
>> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 8-5
>> here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
>> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew
>> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many
>> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when
>> someone calls or comes in my office.
>> 
>> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
>> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them
>> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by sniffing
>> at my roommate when she is at the table.
>> 
>> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the
>> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed
>> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he
>> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't
>> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for
>> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a
>> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
>> 
>> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
>> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it
>> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, and
>> that is very rare.
>> 
>> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get
>> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to
>> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm
>> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
>> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff
>> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month
>> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or
>> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow me
>> around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of
>> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the root
>> of the problem.
>> 
>> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what
>> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his
>> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has
>> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand this,
>> I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Julie A. McGinnity
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>> 
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> 
> 
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> Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM.
> 
> Soprano Singer
> www.sandragayer.com
> 
> Broadcast Presenter
> www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html
> 
> Actor
> www.visablepeople.com
> 
> Voiceover Artist
> www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 15:57:52 +0000
> From: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> PS before and after office hours, brisk run for him!
> 
> On 1/13/20, Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello Julie,
>> If it was your first year, everyone I've known with guide dogs always
>> say the first year's the hardest. Some people have also said the first
>> year's from hell.
>> 
>> I haven't got a guide dog but I have ordinary dogs. Free running helps
>> burn off the extra energy. Could he be let loose in your garden when
>> you're at home and do his own thing sometimes? Playing with him, doing
>> drill and, in short, tiring him out may help with the bord so I'll
>> explore thingy.
>> 
>> Very best wishes,
>> Sandra.
>> 
>> On 1/13/20, Julie McGinnity via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly
>>> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as
>>> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 8-5
>>> here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
>>> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew
>>> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many
>>> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when
>>> someone calls or comes in my office.
>>> 
>>> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
>>> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them
>>> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by sniffing
>>> at my roommate when she is at the table.
>>> 
>>> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the
>>> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed
>>> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he
>>> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't
>>> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for
>>> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a
>>> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
>>> 
>>> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
>>> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it
>>> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, and
>>> that is very rare.
>>> 
>>> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get
>>> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to
>>> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm
>>> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
>>> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff
>>> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month
>>> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or
>>> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow me
>>> around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of
>>> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the root
>>> of the problem.
>>> 
>>> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what
>>> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his
>>> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has
>>> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand this,
>>> I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM.
>> 
>> Soprano Singer
>> www.sandragayer.com
>> 
>> Broadcast Presenter
>> www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html
>> 
>> Actor
>> www.visablepeople.com
>> 
>> Voiceover Artist
>> www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM.
> 
> Soprano Singer
> www.sandragayer.com
> 
> Broadcast Presenter
> www.rnibconnectradio.org.uk/music-box.html
> 
> Actor
> www.visablepeople.com
> 
> Voiceover Artist
> www.archangelvoices.co.uk/content/sandra-gayer
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 16:05:53 +0000
> From: "Newton, Cherie" <cnewton at itsmarta.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> 
> Hi Julie,
> 
> I'm lucky, my guide has 2 pet dogs to play with in a large fenced back yard. When we get home we go out there and she runs and plays-it really helps. I also have a couple of balls and she loves to play fetch. HTH.
> 
> Cherie Newton
> Mobility Services Agent
> Office of Mobility
> MARTA
> 2424 Piedmont Road NE
> Atlanta, GA 30324
> T: (404) 848-4076
> cnewton at itsmarta.com
> www.itsmarta.com
> 
> ?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
> 
> Hello Julie,
> If it was your first year, everyone I've known with guide dogs always say the first year's the hardest. Some people have also said the first year's from hell.
> 
> I haven't got a guide dog but I have ordinary dogs. Free running helps burn off the extra energy. Could he be let loose in your garden when you're at home and do his own thing sometimes? Playing with him, doing drill and, in short, tiring him out may help with the bord so I'll explore thingy.
> 
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
> 
> On 1/13/20, Julie McGinnity via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
>> 
>> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly 
>> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as 
>> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 8-5 
>> here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
>> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew 
>> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many 
>> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when 
>> someone calls or comes in my office.
>> 
>> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
>> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them 
>> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by sniffing 
>> at my roommate when she is at the table.
>> 
>> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the 
>> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed 
>> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he 
>> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't 
>> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for 
>> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a 
>> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
>> 
>> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
>> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it 
>> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, and 
>> that is very rare.
>> 
>> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get 
>> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to 
>> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm 
>> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
>> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff 
>> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month 
>> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or 
>> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow me 
>> around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of 
>> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the root 
>> of the problem.
>> 
>> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what 
>> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his 
>> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has 
>> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand this, 
>> I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Julie A. McGinnity
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:16:40 -0500
> From: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> Hi all,
> 
> Yes, free running can be a great thing.  I live in an apartment and
> don't have the space for him.  I don't feel safe taking him to a dog
> park either.  He and I have lived in apartments for all of the 5 and a
> half years we've been together.
> 
> Over Christmas I collected a bunch of old toys from my previous home,
> and although he enjoys playing with them, he does not play with me
> very much.  I am working on it with him though.  This is one more
> thing I'm trying, though I could do more to play with him.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> On 1/13/20, Newton, Cherie via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> 
>> I'm lucky, my guide has 2 pet dogs to play with in a large fenced back yard.
>> When we get home we go out there and she runs and plays-it really helps. I
>> also have a couple of balls and she loves to play fetch. HTH.
>> 
>> Cherie Newton
>> Mobility Services Agent
>> Office of Mobility
>> MARTA
>> 2424 Piedmont Road NE
>> Atlanta, GA 30324
>> T: (404) 848-4076
>> cnewton at itsmarta.com
>> www.itsmarta.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra Gayer via
>> NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:57 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
>> 
>> Hello Julie,
>> If it was your first year, everyone I've known with guide dogs always say
>> the first year's the hardest. Some people have also said the first year's
>> from hell.
>> 
>> I haven't got a guide dog but I have ordinary dogs. Free running helps burn
>> off the extra energy. Could he be let loose in your garden when you're at
>> home and do his own thing sometimes? Playing with him, doing drill and, in
>> short, tiring him out may help with the bord so I'll explore thingy.
>> 
>> Very best wishes,
>> Sandra.
>> 
>> On 1/13/20, Julie McGinnity via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly
>>> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as
>>> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 8-5
>>> here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
>>> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew
>>> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many
>>> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when
>>> someone calls or comes in my office.
>>> 
>>> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
>>> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them
>>> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by sniffing
>>> at my roommate when she is at the table.
>>> 
>>> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the
>>> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed
>>> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he
>>> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't
>>> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for
>>> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a
>>> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
>>> 
>>> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
>>> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it
>>> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, and
>>> that is very rare.
>>> 
>>> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get
>>> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to
>>> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm
>>> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
>>> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff
>>> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month
>>> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or
>>> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow me
>>> around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of
>>> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the root
>>> of the problem.
>>> 
>>> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what
>>> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his
>>> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has
>>> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand this,
>>> I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> --
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> 
> -- 
> Julie A. McGinnity
> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
> Blind Performing Arts Division
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:19:55 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
> Message-ID: <a2127503f59e21b2cf9f734ab852c0e5.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Hi Julie.
> Can you get out at all at lunch?  Even walk around the block?  Good for
> you, and good for your dog.  Or, if it's not too cold, I walk a good ways
> after work to where I catch the bus, and that helps, too.
> 
> I have had dogs who enjoy having a bone to chew at work, though Krokus
> doesn't care about that.
> 
> Krokus is like your dog in that he likes to grab something that doesn't
> belong to him and run with it.  It's often my shoe.  I just let him run a
> bit, then take away my shoe and give him his bone and say Yay.  Seems to
> work OK for us.
> When we get home from work Krokus likes to run around, or to get one of
> those shinbones, or whatever they are, with a bit of peanutbutter inside. 
> These things seem to de-stress him quite a lot.
> 
> I know it's hard to get out and walk in the winter, and I'm having trouble
> always doing it myself, but it's really healthy for both of you.  Speaking
> as a gal who has spent more than 30 years at a desk job, I can tell you
> that sitting for long periods of time is not good for a body.
> Tracy
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
>> 
>> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly
>> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as
>> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 8-5
>> here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
>> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew
>> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many
>> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when
>> someone calls or comes in my office.
>> 
>> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
>> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them
>> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by sniffing
>> at my roommate when she is at the table.
>> 
>> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the
>> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed
>> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he
>> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't
>> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for
>> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a
>> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
>> 
>> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
>> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it
>> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, and
>> that is very rare.
>> 
>> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get
>> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to
>> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm
>> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
>> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff
>> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month
>> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or
>> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow me
>> around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of
>> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the root
>> of the problem.
>> 
>> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what
>> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his
>> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has
>> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand this,
>> I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Julie A. McGinnity
>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NAGDU mailing list
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:35:52 -0500
> From: Melissa Allman <MAllman at seeingeye.org>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'"	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
> Message-ID: <68528A425613C841AF38DE1B877F19630220CBB13C30 at TSEMTEXCH01>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi Julie. I have an energetic dog and have worked office jobs since I got her. I find that a walk at lunch is good for both of us and if there is somewhere you can walk near your office it might be worth considering. An exercise route in the evening might also be a good idea. I don't know how long your commute home is and how dark it is when you arrive but if you have a RoughWear harness beacon or some reflective clothing that would make you easier to see on an evening walk. Even if you don't have an interesting  destination every time, you could do an exercise route that loops around eventually to take you back home. Not much we can do about the weather I realize. Hope this helps.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 11:17 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Julie McGinnity
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Yes, free running can be a great thing.  I live in an apartment and don't have the space for him.  I don't feel safe taking him to a dog park either.  He and I have lived in apartments for all of the 5 and a half years we've been together.
> 
> Over Christmas I collected a bunch of old toys from my previous home, and although he enjoys playing with them, he does not play with me very much.  I am working on it with him though.  This is one more thing I'm trying, though I could do more to play with him.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> On 1/13/20, Newton, Cherie via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> 
>> I'm lucky, my guide has 2 pet dogs to play with in a large fenced back yard.
>> When we get home we go out there and she runs and plays-it really 
>> helps. I also have a couple of balls and she loves to play fetch. HTH.
>> 
>> Cherie Newton
>> Mobility Services Agent
>> Office of Mobility
>> MARTA
>> 2424 Piedmont Road NE
>> Atlanta, GA 30324
>> T: (404) 848-4076
>> cnewton at itsmarta.com
>> www.itsmarta.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra 
>> Gayer via NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:57 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
>> 
>> Hello Julie,
>> If it was your first year, everyone I've known with guide dogs always 
>> say the first year's the hardest. Some people have also said the first 
>> year's from hell.
>> 
>> I haven't got a guide dog but I have ordinary dogs. Free running helps 
>> burn off the extra energy. Could he be let loose in your garden when 
>> you're at home and do his own thing sometimes? Playing with him, doing 
>> drill and, in short, tiring him out may help with the bord so I'll explore thingy.
>> 
>> Very best wishes,
>> Sandra.
>> 
>> On 1/13/20, Julie McGinnity via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly 
>>> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as 
>>> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 
>>> 8-5 here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
>>> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew 
>>> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many 
>>> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when 
>>> someone calls or comes in my office.
>>> 
>>> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
>>> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them 
>>> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by 
>>> sniffing at my roommate when she is at the table.
>>> 
>>> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the 
>>> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed 
>>> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he 
>>> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't 
>>> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for 
>>> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a 
>>> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
>>> 
>>> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
>>> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it 
>>> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, 
>>> and that is very rare.
>>> 
>>> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get 
>>> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to 
>>> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm 
>>> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
>>> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff 
>>> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month 
>>> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or 
>>> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow 
>>> me around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of 
>>> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the 
>>> root of the problem.
>>> 
>>> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what 
>>> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his 
>>> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has 
>>> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand 
>>> this, I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> NAGDU mailing list
>>> NAGDU at nfbnet.org
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>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM.
>> 
>> Soprano Singer
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 10:42:37 -0600
> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota4 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> Hi, Julie,  coule of things might be helpful. Have you thought about walking
> in your local shopping mall when it's too cold to be outside?  Also, maybe
> you could find a volunteer who likes to walk ro run who would like to take
> your dog with them and get him out for exercise and activity. I've never
> done this with my dogs, but I know a lot of people do use this as a way for
> the dogs to get out for a while. I think you want to give your volunteer
> some guidelines, others on the list might have some usggestions about that.
> 
> Charlene
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity via
> NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:31 AM
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> Cc: Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
> 
> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly energetic
> dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as much travel as
> you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 8-5 here, and I mostly
> stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew on.
> He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many undesirable
> behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when someone calls or
> comes in my office.
> 
> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them under the
> coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by sniffing at my roommate
> when she is at the table.
> 
> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the house, and
> that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed some of these
> behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he could have, that i
> could give him when he grabbed something I didn't want him to take.  The
> idea was that if he took a paper towel, for example, I would take that out
> of his mouth and exchange it for a bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do
> the exchange and walk away.
> 
> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it all as
> positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, and that is very
> rare.
> 
> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get enough
> work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to focus on.  I
> am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm not really wanting
> to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff requires
> me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month to get out
> more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or have experienced
> anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow me around, and that seems
> to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of these problems, but I don't
> think tying him down would get at the root of the problem.
> 
> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what
> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his
> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has always
> been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand this, I don't want
> it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
> 
> 
> --
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> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the Blind
> Performing Arts Division
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 17:56:21 +0100
> From: Bianka <bianka at andi-bika.de>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> Hi Julie and all, 
> 
> Two things come to mind here from my experience with high energy dogs. 
> 
> Can you vary your routes from and to work? My last dog just thrived on variation and it really helped when I changed up the routes as much as I could. The other thing that comes to mind is trick training, either with the clicker or without. Just teach tricks like touch you hand on command, lift a paw, find a certain toy and bring it. Also, playing a bit of fetch helps sometimes. Hiding toys and letting the dog search for them is also a great tool to get those braincells working a bit. You know your dog best and you know best if he thrives on brainwork or if it?s more a physical issue but usually offering some brainwork helps quite a bit. 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Bianka 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:13:19 -0600
> From: "Charlene Ota" <caota4 at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> That makes me think of some of the dog toys a friend of mine has for her dog. There are puzzle toys that you hide food inside and the dog has to get the toy apart to get the treat out.  Irish never had much use for toys so I never invested in them, but those puzzle things sounded kind of cool as they give the dog a challenge.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU <nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bianka via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:56 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bianka <bianka at andi-bika.de>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
> 
> Hi Julie and all, 
> 
> Two things come to mind here from my experience with high energy dogs. 
> 
> Can you vary your routes from and to work? My last dog just thrived on variation and it really helped when I changed up the routes as much as I could. The other thing that comes to mind is trick training, either with the clicker or without. Just teach tricks like touch you hand on command, lift a paw, find a certain toy and bring it. Also, playing a bit of fetch helps sometimes. Hiding toys and letting the dog search for them is also a great tool to get those braincells working a bit. You know your dog best and you know best if he thrives on brainwork or if it?s more a physical issue but usually offering some brainwork helps quite a bit. 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Bianka 
> 
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:56:33 -0600
> From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin at mymts.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New member
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> Hi Hannaha,
> Welcome!! I'm Madison Martin and I live in Manitoba Canada. I'm 19 and currently working on improving my O&M skills so that I can apply for a guide dog. Welcome and hope you enjoy the list!!
> Madison
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rox Homstad via NAGDU
> Sent: January-12-20 9:26 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Rox Homstad <pawpower4me at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] New member
> 
> Hey Hannah,
> Welcome to the list. I'm Rox, and am also Deafblind. Right now I have 2 service dogs that are working. Soleil is a lab and is 9 and is easing into retirement due to arthritis in her hip.  Rowan is almost 3 and is easing into full time work.  She is an American Staffordshire Terrier/American Bulldog mix. I also have Phoenix, a one year old golden who is in training for funzies. 
> I hope you like the list!
> 
> 
> Rox'E and the Kitchen Bitches
> Soleil, Rowan, Phoenix
> pawpower4me at gmail.com
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2020, at 9:15 PM, Hannah Furney via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi my name is Hannah and I live in Minnesota. I?m on my second guide dog.  They both have been from Leader Dogs for the Blind. The first one was a German Shepherd and now the one I have now is a Lab/golden. I only had the first one for six months. And now I?ve had this one for a year and a half so I?ve had guide dogs since July 2017.  Due to me being deaf blind I prefer to travel with a dog.  
>> Hannah
>> 
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> Message: 13
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 13:42:24 -0600
> From: Gretchen Brown <gretch99brown at gmail.com>
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [NAGDU] new member
> Message-ID:
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> Hi Hannah, I just got my first dog from Leader this past June. She is
> a Lab/Golden cross. I came across  this list a few years ago when I
> was doing research, and just joined not too long ago. I hope you enjoy
> this list and find it helpful.  Gretchen Brown and Leader Dog Beacon
> Grace
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 14:40:28 -0600
> From: "Madison Martin" <maddymartin at mymts.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] new member
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> 
> Hi Gretchen,
> Welcome to the list!! Hope you enjoy your new partner!! I'm currently
> working on improving my O&M skills so that I can apply for a dog. Enjoy the
> list!! 
> Madison
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gretchen Brown
> via NAGDU
> Sent: January-13-20 1:42 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Cc: Gretchen Brown <gretch99brown at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NAGDU] new member
> 
> Hi Hannah, I just got my first dog from Leader this past June. She is a
> Lab/Golden cross. I came across  this list a few years ago when I was doing
> research, and just joined not too long ago. I hope you enjoy this list and
> find it helpful.  Gretchen Brown and Leader Dog Beacon Grace
> 
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> Message: 15
> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:27:18 -0500
> From: "Susan Jones" <sblanjones11 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog
> 	Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> 
> Do you have a mall where you could get some serious walking in?
> Is there a young, energetic person you trust who could give your dog a
> healthy run once or twice a week?
> 
> Susan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa Allman
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 11:36 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Cc: Melissa Allman
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
> 
> Hi Julie. I have an energetic dog and have worked office jobs since I got
> her. I find that a walk at lunch is good for both of us and if there is
> somewhere you can walk near your office it might be worth considering. An
> exercise route in the evening might also be a good idea. I don't know how
> long your commute home is and how dark it is when you arrive but if you have
> a RoughWear harness beacon or some reflective clothing that would make you
> easier to see on an evening walk. Even if you don't have an interesting
> destination every time, you could do an exercise route that loops around
> eventually to take you back home. Not much we can do about the weather I
> realize. Hope this helps.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity
> via NAGDU
> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 11:17 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Cc: Julie McGinnity
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Yes, free running can be a great thing.  I live in an apartment and don't
> have the space for him.  I don't feel safe taking him to a dog park either.
> He and I have lived in apartments for all of the 5 and a half years we've
> been together.
> 
> Over Christmas I collected a bunch of old toys from my previous home, and
> although he enjoys playing with them, he does not play with me very much.  I
> am working on it with him though.  This is one more thing I'm trying, though
> I could do more to play with him.
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> On 1/13/20, Newton, Cherie via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>> 
>> I'm lucky, my guide has 2 pet dogs to play with in a large fenced back
> yard.
>> When we get home we go out there and she runs and plays-it really 
>> helps. I also have a couple of balls and she loves to play fetch. HTH.
>> 
>> Cherie Newton
>> Mobility Services Agent
>> Office of Mobility
>> MARTA
>> 2424 Piedmont Road NE
>> Atlanta, GA 30324
>> T: (404) 848-4076
>> cnewton at itsmarta.com
>> www.itsmarta.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra 
>> Gayer via NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:57 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
>> 
>> Hello Julie,
>> If it was your first year, everyone I've known with guide dogs always 
>> say the first year's the hardest. Some people have also said the first 
>> year's from hell.
>> 
>> I haven't got a guide dog but I have ordinary dogs. Free running helps 
>> burn off the extra energy. Could he be let loose in your garden when 
>> you're at home and do his own thing sometimes? Playing with him, doing 
>> drill and, in short, tiring him out may help with the bord so I'll explore
> thingy.
>> 
>> Very best wishes,
>> Sandra.
>> 
>> On 1/13/20, Julie McGinnity via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly 
>>> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as 
>>> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work 
>>> 8-5 here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
>>> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew 
>>> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many 
>>> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when 
>>> someone calls or comes in my office.
>>> 
>>> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
>>> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them 
>>> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by 
>>> sniffing at my roommate when she is at the table.
>>> 
>>> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the 
>>> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed 
>>> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he 
>>> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't 
>>> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for 
>>> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a 
>>> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
>>> 
>>> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
>>> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it 
>>> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong, 
>>> and that is very rare.
>>> 
>>> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get 
>>> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to 
>>> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm 
>>> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
>>> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff 
>>> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month 
>>> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or 
>>> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow 
>>> me around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of 
>>> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the 
>>> root of the problem.
>>> 
>>> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what 
>>> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his 
>>> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has 
>>> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand 
>>> this, I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Julie A. McGinnity
>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the 
>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
>>> 
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>> 
>> --
>> Sandra Gayer DipABRSM, LRSM.
>> 
>> Soprano Singer
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>> 
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:16:38 +0000
> From: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> 	<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
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> 
> Hello,
> I'm sorry to put a spoke in the wheels but getting other people to
> walk your guide dog comes with risks. They would need to know not to
> keep walking when the dog stops at curbs etc.
> 
> Very best wishes,
> Sandra.
> 
> On 1/13/20, Susan Jones via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Do you have a mall where you could get some serious walking in?
>> Is there a young, energetic person you trust who could give your dog a
>> healthy run once or twice a week?
>> 
>> Susan
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Melissa Allman
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 11:36 AM
>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>> Cc: Melissa Allman
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
>> 
>> Hi Julie. I have an energetic dog and have worked office jobs since I got
>> her. I find that a walk at lunch is good for both of us and if there is
>> somewhere you can walk near your office it might be worth considering. An
>> exercise route in the evening might also be a good idea. I don't know how
>> long your commute home is and how dark it is when you arrive but if you
>> have
>> a RoughWear harness beacon or some reflective clothing that would make you
>> easier to see on an evening walk. Even if you don't have an interesting
>> destination every time, you could do an exercise route that loops around
>> eventually to take you back home. Not much we can do about the weather I
>> realize. Hope this helps.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie McGinnity
>> via NAGDU
>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 11:17 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Cc: Julie McGinnity
>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Yes, free running can be a great thing.  I live in an apartment and don't
>> have the space for him.  I don't feel safe taking him to a dog park either.
>> He and I have lived in apartments for all of the 5 and a half years we've
>> been together.
>> 
>> Over Christmas I collected a bunch of old toys from my previous home, and
>> although he enjoys playing with them, he does not play with me very much.
>> I
>> am working on it with him though.  This is one more thing I'm trying,
>> though
>> I could do more to play with him.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Julie
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/13/20, Newton, Cherie via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Julie,
>>> 
>>> I'm lucky, my guide has 2 pet dogs to play with in a large fenced back
>> yard.
>>> When we get home we go out there and she runs and plays-it really
>>> helps. I also have a couple of balls and she loves to play fetch. HTH.
>>> 
>>> Cherie Newton
>>> Mobility Services Agent
>>> Office of Mobility
>>> MARTA
>>> 2424 Piedmont Road NE
>>> Atlanta, GA 30324
>>> T: (404) 848-4076
>>> cnewton at itsmarta.com
>>> www.itsmarta.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sandra
>>> Gayer via NAGDU
>>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:57 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Sandra Gayer <sandragayer7 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [NAGDU] Guide Dogs and Office Jobs
>>> 
>>> Hello Julie,
>>> If it was your first year, everyone I've known with guide dogs always
>>> say the first year's the hardest. Some people have also said the first
>>> year's from hell.
>>> 
>>> I haven't got a guide dog but I have ordinary dogs. Free running helps
>>> burn off the extra energy. Could he be let loose in your garden when
>>> you're at home and do his own thing sometimes? Playing with him, doing
>>> drill and, in short, tiring him out may help with the bord so I'll
>>> explore
>> thingy.
>>> 
>>> Very best wishes,
>>> Sandra.
>>> 
>>> On 1/13/20, Julie McGinnity via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I hope everyone had a happy New Year and is staying warm.
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if anyone else has dealt with the combination of a highly
>>>> energetic dog, an office job, and a routine that doesn't allow for as
>>>> much travel as you would like.  Well, that's my situation.  I work
>>>> 8-5 here, and I mostly stay in my office.  Bill does well in my office.
>>>> He has his own bed, and I've brought a bone and a toy for him to chew
>>>> on.  He listens pretty well at work and doesn't display very many
>>>> undesirable behaviors, other than attempting to get my attention when
>>>> someone calls or comes in my office.
>>>> 
>>>> At home though, I'm slightly ashamed to admit he can be quite a pill.
>>>> He tends to grab things that don't belong to him and run with them
>>>> under the coffee table.  He has even been testy about food by
>>>> sniffing at my roommate when she is at the table.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not give him people food.  I have recently puppy-proofed the
>>>> house, and that has helped some.  When I first got him, he displayed
>>>> some of these behaviors, and the school recommended I find toys he
>>>> could have, that i could give him when he grabbed something I didn't
>>>> want him to take.  The idea was that if he took a paper towel, for
>>>> example, I would take that out of his mouth and exchange it for a
>>>> bone.  I wouldn't say anything, just do the exchange and walk away.
>>>> 
>>>> The difficulty with this dog is that he feeds off of attention.
>>>> Negative, positive, it doesn't matter.  He soaks it up and treats it
>>>> all as positive, unless he really knows he's done something wrong,
>>>> and that is very rare.
>>>> 
>>>> My instinct tells me that he is restless and bored.  He doesn't get
>>>> enough work, and although he has structure, he doesn't have enough to
>>>> focus on.  I am doing what I can to change this.  It's winter, so I'm
>>>> not really wanting to walk outside as much as I would in the spring.
>>>> I'm working on a lot outside of work, but unfortunately that stuff
>>>> requires me to sit still.  We should get some more freedom next month
>>>> to get out more.  But until then, I wonder if you have any ideas or
>>>> have experienced anything like this.  At home I allow him to follow
>>>> me around, and that seems to help.  I know tie-down may solve some of
>>>> these problems, but I don't think tying him down would get at the
>>>> root of the problem.
>>>> 
>>>> His work has improved since last I wrote.  I'm honestly not sure what
>>>> happened last summer, but he definitely seems eager to guide, and his
>>>> confidence is right back where it's supposed to be.  This dog has
>>>> always been a little tough to entertain, and though I understand
>>>> this, I don't want it to be an excuse for his misbehaving.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> MM Vocal Performance, 2015; President, National Federation of the
>>>> Blind Performing Arts Division
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> 
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> 
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> Broadcast Presenter
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