[NAGDU] Leaving

[Cindy Ray]

I am sorry to see Rox go, along with the others who left. Rox is gone already, so if you would like to write her, you will have to do so off list.
I will try to contact her one day when things have come to be a little calmer, because she did offer so much to our list. 
Thank you for your thoughts, Tracy,
Cindy
cindyray at gmail.com <mailto:cindyray at gmail.com>


> On Apr 10, 2021, at 9:57 AM, Tracy Carcione via NAGDU <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I am very sorry to see good people leaving.  I hope that others who are
> considering it will consider that, if all the dissenters leave, their
> valuable viewpoints will be lost.  Really, I hope leadership realizes that,
> too.  "Diversity" gives room for many perspectives.
> But let us also remember to be gentle with each other.  If an apology is
> offered, is it not respectful to accept it?  Respect has to run both ways.
> We must be able to discuss issues and disagree respectfully, and not let
> egos and personalities take over.
> Tracy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NAGDU [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David via NAGDU
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2021 10:46 AM
> To: pawpower4me at gmail.com; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
> Guide Dog Users
> Cc: David
> Subject: [NAGDU] Leaving
> 
> 'Sorry to see you go, Rox.
> 
> I am torn, whether to fight and challenge (which is my nature), or just 
> to say, 'Screw it,' because these are narrow and timid people, unless 
> they are wielding powers they believe they have over others.
> 
> What I see here are attempts to apply false reasons to their fears and 
> insecurities that have to be apologized for as they are called out for 
> their ridiculousness. 'Oh, I was wrong. You weren't acting as a proxy 
> for someone we dislike. Sorry.' 'Oh, you're right. It wasn't off topic. 
> Sorry.'
> 
> Now, of course, an on-topic webinar reminder is an advertisement and 
> requires approval by the moderator before it is posted. 'Cooperate or 
> you'll be put on moderated status.'
> 
> Which means, of course, that your posts are going to be censored so they 
> do not bruise egos, or involve ideas that 'leaders' might not agree with.
> 
> Diversity involves being open: to others, to different ideas, to explore 
> the feelings of others, to debate and consider ideas that are different 
> from your own. It involves respecting and valuing different ideas and 
> perspectives. It involves being committed to offering those who differ 
> the same rights of access and respect that you offer to those with whom 
> you agree.
> 
> There are many valuable things that NAGDU, both past and present, 
> provides to guide dog handlers. It does, however, disrespect its 
> mission, its accomplishments, and its value by stifling dissent.
> 
> -- 
> *David in Clearwater, FL*
> *david at bakerinet.com*
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