[nfb-talk] Jury finds IA Dept. for Blind's guide dog policydoesnot discriminate

Ray Foret jr rforetjr at comcast.net
Fri Feb 20 23:15:46 UTC 2009


Red the message much more carefully.  You'll see, if you are a close 
observer, the good thing about it.  It's the use of non-sighted techniques 
that makes this good news.  You will notice this; that is, if you are a 
careful reader and a close observer.  See, I'm trying to give you the 
benefit of the doubt here.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Jury finds IA Dept. for Blind's guide dog 
policydoesnot discriminate


I'm uncertain as to what is good about this. In general, refusing entry to a
person with a guide dog is a bad thing.  Did the NFB favor prohibiting use
of a guide dog in mobility training? Why?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chad Allen" <chad at chadallenmagic.com>
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Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Jury finds IA Dept. for Blind's guide dog policydoes
not discriminate


> Great news!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Wilson,Joanne (by way of David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>)
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:25 PM
> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nfb-talk] Jury finds IA Dept. for Blind's guide dog policy does
> not discriminate
>
>
> ----------
> From: Brammer, Robert [AG] [mailto:rbrammer at ag.state.ia.us]
> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:53 PM
> To: Brammer, Robert [AG]
> Subject: Atty. Gen. release: Jury finds IA Dept.
> for Blind's guide dog policy does not discriminate
>
> To News Editors.   From Bob Brammer (Iowa
> Attorney General's Office - 515-281-6699.)
> Please find a release pasted below.  This will be
> posted soon at
> <http://www.iowaattorneygeneral.org/>www.IowaAttorneyGeneral.org
> .  A jury entered a verdict Wednesday in this
> case in Polk County District Court.
> Best regards,  Bram
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>
> For immediate release - Thursday, February 19, 2009.
> Contact Bob Brammer - 515-281-6699
>
> Jury finds Iowa Department for the Blind's
> Guide Dog Policy Does Not Discriminate
>
>             Des Moines.  A Polk County jury has
> rejected a Des Moines woman's claim that the
> State of Iowa Department for the Blind
> discriminated against her by refusing her request
> to use a guide dog while she attended the
> Department's orientation and adjustment training program.
>
>             The Department for the Blind
> orientation and training program is a
> comprehensive program that utilizes a totally
> non-visual approach to teaching blindness
> skills.  Students with partial vision are
> required to wear eyeshades to prevent reliance
> upon any visual cues during training.  Department
> policies prohibit the use of any visual aids
> within the orientation and training program,
> including guide dogs.  The Department has no
> objection to guide dogs in other situations.
>
>             Stephanie Dohmen, who is legally
> blind, attended the program for several months
> beginning in September 2000 and sought to
> re-enter the program in June 2002 accompanied by her guide dog.
>
>             Dohmen claimed in her lawsuit that
> the Department's policy violated her rights under
> the Iowa Civil Rights Act and under federal laws
> that prohibit discrimination on the basis of disability.
>
>             After a six-day trial, the
> eight-person jury rejected Dohmen's claims in a verdict entered Wednesday.
>
>
>             The Department for the Blind, which
> was represented in the trial by the Iowa Attorney
> General's Office, argued that a totally
> non-visual approach - and training without
> assistance of a guide-dog or other visual aids -
> is the most effective approach for
> visually-impaired persons who are learning skills
> and techniques for dealing with blindness.
>
>             The Department places no limitations
> upon the use of guide dogs in other settings,
> including in the Department for the Blind
> building in downtown Des Moines.   For example,
> Karen Keninger, the Director of the Department,
> uses a guide dog, and the dog accompanied
> Keninger during her testimony at the trial.
>
>             The orientation program typically
> includes about six months of full-time training
> in various problem-solving skills, such as
> cane-travel on public streets, using Braille,
> using computers, and dealing with many other situations.
>
>             The Department for the Blind's
> orientation and adjustment program was
> established in 1959 and is considered by many to
> be one of the most effective in the country.
>
>             During the trial, the State
> Department for the Blind presented testimony from
> Joanne Wilson and Frederic K. Schroeder, each a
> former Commissioner of the U.S. Rehabilitation
> Services Administration, which oversees programs
> for the blind around the country.
>
>             "Iowa's orientation program
> profoundly changes lives," said Wilson, who also
> is Executive Director of the National Federation
> of the Blind.  "It works.  It's a cutting-edge
> program and a model for other states."  Wilson is
> a Webster City native and ISU graduate who went
> through the Iowa Department for the Blind's orientation program herself.
>
>             Schroeder said:  "To me the central
> point is that individuals have a choice in the
> type of training they take.  While programs must
> and should make reasonable accommodations, they
> cannot be required to alter the fundamentals of the program."
>
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