[nfb-talk] Losing DVS

tribble lauraeaves at yahoo.com
Thu Jan 15 20:28:26 UTC 2009

Hello John -- well, perhaps you should consider thanking the nfb for 
reducing the amount of time you spend listening to the television.  I know I 
sometimes spend too much time there, dvs or not.
Just a thought.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Losing DVS

Every time I criticize the NFB, all you people want to do is make it about
me. Well, as usual, I'm not going to allow that. This is not about me.  I am
going to discuss the issue whether you like it or not!

I already provided a URL for a page that quotes the TV and movie producers
using the NFB's own statements in it's legal argument.  These are *facts*.
If you don't like them, too bad.

The NFB made a mistake in opposing the mandate for DVS. If the mandate had
continued, I'd have DVS on my digital broadcast today. Now, the best you can
do is argue that the mandate would have been over turned regardless of what
the NFB did. Yet the fact remains that the NFB opposed the mandate and
almost certainly contributed to it being over turned.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
To: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>; "NFB Talk Mailing List"
<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Losing DVS

> Ray,
> You're wasting your breath on this score.  The party line held by some
> organizations is that we oppose DVS, and anyone who stops supporting DVS
> does so because of us.  You've been baited.
> Joseph
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 03:50:39PM -0600, Ray Foret jr wrote:
>>With all due respect, sir, you are wrong.  Before explaining why, let me
>>suggest that you correct your own misinformation by reading all we have to
>>say on the subject in the various Braille Monitors now available on our
>>site.  Maybe instead of spouting off in impulsive and emotional irrational
>>anger, you should better aquaint yourself with what we really said first.
>>The Constantly BAREFOOTED Ray
>>"Old friend, what are you looking for?  After those many years abroad you
>>come With images you tended Under foreign skies Far away from your own
>>George Seferis
>>Phone or Fax::
>>+1 (985) 360-3375
>>Skype Name:
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