[nfb-talk] New List for Blind Conservatives

Ray Foret jr rforetjr at comcast.net
Tue Apr 20 15:15:40 UTC 2010


Just being honest.  That's all.


Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!!!

Now a proud Mac user!!!!!

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On Apr 20, 2010, at 9:39 AM, John G. Heim wrote:

> I'd suggest that if you really want to discuss this rationally you refrain from using perjoritives like "leftist" and "socialist". The correct term is "liberal" or "progressive".
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
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> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] New List for Blind Conservatives
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>> RyanO,
>> 
>> I must publicly applaud you for taking this very long overdue stand for us blind conservatives.  Let me be completely frank here, at perhaps some risk to myself.  For much too long now, I have feared that perhaps the federation was leaning rather too far over to the left.  But why?  It's the entitlement mentality of the SSI check; to put it bluntly.  We poor blind think we can't live without it.  But, the sad truth is, that for many of us, that think is a physical reality.  That is the reason why more of us don't have jobs.  We get punished for trying to start to go to work. When we do, we don't make enough money to live by; and yet, on the other hand, we make too much to receive any help from the socialist security system.  What, there fore, is the sad result?  The sad result is that too many blind individuals adopt leftist socialism because they think that government will "look after us".  IF you just stop and consider for a moment what that really means, you'll see that i
>> t goes directly against the grain of true federationism.  It personally hurt me when Joanne Wilson and the rest of us were deceived by the Republican party in or about 2005 when Secretary Spelling wanted to dismantle blind rehab.  Frankly, I felt then and feel still that my fellow conservatives were completely wrong on that score.  They seem to hate political correctness; that is, until it comes to the blind.  That turns my stomach!!!!  It sure doesn't help when any leaders of the federation fail to reach out to conservatives because they feel more comfortable being in bed with the socialist left.  To speak quite candidly, I was sincerely hoping that our fight to get money to convert over to the digital talking book program would have taught the lesson that we cannot afford to ride the back of the tiger for fear of ending up devoured by it. It seems, however, that this is not so.  Now look, just so I am not misunderstood here, I personally couldn't care whether any individu
>> al in the federation or on this list is a leftist, a socialist, an extreme right wing person or what ever.  What I do care about is the fact that so long as we do not face up to the fact that we're going to have to figure out a better way to live for ourselves, we'll be looking for that check every month which is supposed to assure us that we're being looked after. I'm just wondering when enough is finally going to be enough.  What I look forward to in this debate is not accusation after accusation, but rather, healthy discussion about how we can rid ourselves of the entitlement mentality and move in to something much better for us.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!!!
>> 
>> Now a proud Mac user!!!!!
>> 
>> E-Mail:
>> rforetjr at comcast dot net
>> Skype:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Apr 19, 2010, at 8:32 PM, RyanO (by way of David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>) wrote:
>> 
>>> I have been asked to circulate the following:
>>> 
>>> Dave
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>>> 
>>> In October, 2008, a fellow Federationist and I were asked to reach out to the McCain campaign in hopes of persuading a representative to come speak at our monthly Denver chapter meeting on the topic of disability issues. We already had a rep from the Obama campaign in the person of one of our members, who was an official Obama surrogate. After several days of phone tag, I was informed that the McCain camp would not be sending a representative to speak to us. The reason I was given was because, "Obama was just too far ahead on disability issues."
>>> 
>>> I and my fellow conservative blind friends were angry and hurt. We tried to give both sides equal time and felt we'd been told that we didn't matter. To that end, I felt I had two options. The first was to quit being a conservative and jump ship over to the other side. The second option was to get more actively involved and to make our voices heard on all levels. Anyone who knows me knows that option one was not an option.
>>> 
>>> To that end, I have created a mailing list called, Brush Fires. It is primarily for blind conservatives so that we may form a network of communication and information. Let me stress that everyone is welcome on this list, no matter what their political stripe may be. In the spirit of the Federation, I believe that healthy debate and discussion fosters a more vibrant society for all of its members.
>>> 
>>> Right now, the list is announce only. If we get big enough, I plan to turn it into a discussion mailing list. For more information, please Email me at
>>> ryano218 at comcast.net
>>> 
>>> Thank you for your time and attention.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> RyanO
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