[nfb-talk] my ideas for ending SSI & SSDI

T. Joseph Carter carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
Thu Apr 29 02:33:04 UTC 2010


Indeed I would oppose the removal of the minimum wage for people with 
disabilities, and I recognize that raising the minimum wage results 
in fewer jobs available to those who need them.

If we're bellyaching here about how a tax exemption makes people 
think we are incapable of being equal, how does being exempt from the 
minimum wage or government subsidized employment make us look?  
That's a giant leap backward, in my opinion.  That's especially true 
when you start considering the government paperwork and bureaucracy 
involved in such a program.

What John doesn't seem to get was that the NFB was founded to bring 
about the END what he proposes to create.  Maybe the notion that you 
do the same work for less pay and don't dare question the voc rehab 
agency that (literally) feeds you is acceptable to some members of 
the Progressive Party who would gladly give government total power 
and zero oversight.  The rest of us have heard and lived enough 
government horror stories to politely decline.

Not that politely declining means anything to the Progressive Party.  
They'll ram it through no matter what, because them having a 
dictatorship is good for you.

Joseph


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 10:11:51AM -0700, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>The modification of minimum wage laws would actually be a step 
>backward as it undermines equal pay for equal work and would not 
>receive support from organized labor. Either we are competing equally 
>in the work force or not competing. You can't have it both ways.
>Chuck
>----- Original Message ----- From: "John G. Heim" 
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>>Well, technically, these are not ideas for ending SSI and SSDI.
>>
>>1. Companies should get tax credits for hiring someone on SSI or 
>>SSDI equal to the amount the person would have received if they'd 
>>stayed on SSI or SSDI. The tax credit could last for one year, two 
>>years, three --  whatever it takes. Note that this idea is revenue 
>>neutral. Of course, someone would have to be on SSI or SSDI in 
>>order to go off SSI or SSDI this way. So my idea doesn't do away 
>>with SSI and SSDI. But we don't really want to do that anyway 
>>because some people simply cannot work and can never come off SSI 
>>or SSDI.
>>
>>2. Waive minimum wage laws for people on SSI or SSDI for 2 or 3 
>>years after they are hired.  The disabled person would continue to 
>>get SSI or SSDI while they're working because they'd only be making 
>>$1 an hour (or whatever).
>>
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