[nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talking about blind justice
Ray Foret Jr
rforetjr at comcast.net
Fri Aug 13 08:18:28 UTC 2010
Be that as it may, he certainly doesn't speak for or appeal to me; as I believe I have made sufficiently well known.
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
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On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:58 AM, David Andrews wrote:
> Rush Limbaugh -- like many talk show hosts, "paints with a pretty broad brush." It is not in his interest to draw fine distinctions. He is an entertainer, appealing to the conservative masses, we are a small minority -- harping on what a small minority is a reoccurring theme of his.
> To me, part of the problem with the Republican Party is that they have allowed him to become a pseudo-spokesman for them.
> At 06:52 PM 8/12/2010, you wrote:
>> What I found rather odd about it was that the commentary on kindle and the
>> nfb didn't seem to be related to the issue of the Black Panthers and the
>> Justice Department. I know about both issues but don't see the
>> relationship. And, significantly, he never explains it. He never says, "so
>> you see that a justice department that excludes book reader tests would
>> obviously be against white people."
>> So, my conclusion is that he's reaching and counting on the fact that he has
>> an audience not particularly familiar with logic or straight line thinking.
>> So, the question is, do we make some political hay out of this which is what
>> he wants? Or, do we ignore him as being not on track.
>> My view is that we go after him because in a media fight we can probably
>> What do you all think?
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:44 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talking
>> aboutblind justice
>> I interpreted his diatribe as calling Obama's people bigoted morons, not
>> Mike Freeman
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:23, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at comcast.net> wrote:
>> > Oh no I won't. I was offended that he called us a bunch of "bigoted
>> morons". I was offended that he, and too many of his kind, do not seem to
>> want to understand the NFB position on this matter. I could ask why you
>> decide now to be so ugly about this; but, I will refrain.
>> > Sincerely,
>> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> > A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>> > E-Mail:
>> > rforetjr at comcast dot net
>> > Skype Name:
>> > barefootedray
>> > On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:03 PM, John Heim wrote:
>> >> Your disappointment with Rush Limbaugh aside, what's wrong with what he
>> said?I mean, specifically, where do you disagree with his comments? Because
>> I don't think you can disagree with him without trampling on several sacred
>> cows of the conservative point of view.
>> >> Are you in favor of the Justice Department telling Amazon how to run
>> their business? If you don't like it that Case-Western University is giving
>> out kindles, go somewhere else. Go to UCLA or the University of Wisconsin.
>> Or go to Case-Western and opt out of the kindle program. Where is it written
>> that government is responsible for making sure that everything is fair? I
>> don't remember seeing that in the Constitution. If the kindle isn't
>> accessible, why don't you invent your own kindle-like device that is
>> accessible. Amazon didn't exist 15 years ago. They built that business up
>> from nothing. If accessibility is so important, why don't you get out there
>> and build your own Amazon that is 100% accessible and put Amazon out of
>> business? Otherwise, stop holding everybody else back just so you can make
>> it in this world. Or are you one of those guys who thinks everybody has to
>> win? You think that if Little Johnny comes in 87th he should get a pat on
>> the back, told he did a good job,
>> > and get handed an 87th place medal he can have framed and put above the
>> >> Boy, I'd better be careful here. Next thing I know you'll change your
>> mind and side with Limbaugh after all.
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:15 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Check Out This Link On Rush Limbaugh talking
>> aboutblind justice
>> >>> I believe that everybody on this list knows of my political affiliation
>> with the conservative side. Let me say something about this Limbaugh piece.
>> I find it extremely offensive. I have never felt so betrayed by someone who
>> was supposedly one of my own!!! It's quite clear to me that there are many
>> issues which this brings up; but, I will touch on only one of them here.
>> Sadly, it is the case that many political conservatives and Republican party
>> mouth pieces will not understand our point of view. Note that I did not say
>> do not understand; rather, I said "will not understand"; big difference. I
>> first began to see the sad truth of this back in 2005 when the secretary of
>> education, Spelling, wanted to cut out individual rehab services offices. I
>> dare say we all remember what happened in consequence of that. Joanne
>> wilson resigned her position and became a private citizen. I believe that
>> was when the light really went off in my head about the truth of what was
>> > go
>> >>> ing on. Small wonder that we are in the situation we are in. The
>> trouble with political conservatives is this. Many of them say words that
>> they know that the true conservatives want to hear, and, maybe some of them
>> even believe those words. The trouble is this. They are saying those words
>> for the sake of political expediency. Now, on the other hand, my personal
>> life experience has taught me that it just doesn't work that way. When
>> people like Rush Limbaugh make statements such as he made in this piece, he
>> only serves to hurt both the blindness cause, and also, the conservative
>> cause also. I want to say something else for the record. There was a time
>> when I did used to listen to him; but, over the course of the past five
>> years or so, I ceased to listen to hymn; especially after Hurricane Katrina.
>> I felt that he was no longer what he once had been, and, I felt that he had
>> lost focus. Frankly, as a blind conservative, I find myself very much
>> offended by what Limbaugh
>> >>> says here because what we have is a fundamental lack of the will to
>> understand our point of view. To put it bluntly, he's going for
>> sensationalism and not much if anything else. Be that as it may, words mean
>> things. The way people use words also means things. I cannot help but
>> wonder how this effects other blind conservatives; but, that subject matter,
>> I forbear to enter. Doubtless, blind people on the other side of the isle,
>> (so to speak) are wondering why, in the face of Limbaugh's tirade, we can
>> still feel as we do. I will not discuss this except to say that we who are
>> blind conservatives do not need Limbaugh to tell us what to think. I feel
>> as I do and think as I do and have done so long before I ever heard Limbaugh
>> for the first time. Sadly, this recent event more than confirms something I
>> have long thought. But, that is a subject which does not directly touch the
>> blindness factors, and so, I will leave it to another group or time.
>> >>> Sincerely,
>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
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