[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Constance Canode satin-bear at sbcglobal.net
Sat Dec 4 19:59:54 UTC 2010


Ray, maybe with a little fun team work, we can write that verse..smile.

Connie Canode
At 01:40 PM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
>I'm sure not even John Henry could get   through, even with that 
>strong arm and heavy hammer of his.  Yep, he could beat the  steam 
>drill, but, he caint get through to Brian.  Maybe we need to make 
>another verse for the song.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>
>Skype Name:
>barefootedray
>
>On Dec 4, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Constance Canode wrote:
>
> > Yes, there are blind doctors.  I know one personally.  He is not 
> a surgeon, but he is a psychiatrist, and in order to get through 
> medical school and residency, he had to study and work in many 
> different facets of medicine.  Blind people work in many different 
> medical fields...nurses, physical and occupational therapists, 
> psychologists and psychiatrists and many other occupations and do 
> it quite well.  However, getting through to you is like trying to 
> move a mountain with a broken shovel, so I quit.
> >
> > Connie Canode
> > At 11:08 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
> >> not the exact connection.
> >> does a hospital hire a blind surgeon and a person to tell him 
> what he is about to slice?
> >> no, and i don't know how the guy 30 years ago talked the 
> employer into hiring another to do everything for him.
> >>
> >> Bryan Schulz
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode" 
> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:43 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>
> >>
> >>> What about this parallel.  Do you think that Senators and 
> congress people do not have assistants.  And what about 
> lawyers.  Do you think that paralegals are not assisting 
> them?  Even doctors have assistants.
> >>>
> >>> Connie Canode
> >>> At 10:34 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
> >>>> so you also will not possibly accept that the blind builder 
> will take more time to do the same task at the same skill.
> >>>>
> >>>> how about this parallel, i know a man who worked for state 
> govt for 30 years and had an assistant the whole time.
> >>>> what boss in this era would hire two people to do the same job 
> as one could?
> >>>>
> >>>> Bryan Schulz
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> >>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:18 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Brian,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why do you believe that a blind carpenter cannot perform as well as a
> >>>>> sighted one?  Why do you assume that it will naturally take 
> more time and
> >>>>> have more waste?  You're refusing to see that a blind person 
> can do the job
> >>>>> equally as well as a sighted person, given the training and 
> experience. It
> >>>>> really seems that you believe blindness necessarily means 
> inferiority. It
> >>>>> doesn't.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cindy
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Schulz" 
> <b.schulz at sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:58 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> everyone doesn't get the speed point.
> >>>>> how much extra time did it take him compared to same skill of a sighted
> >>>>> builder and how much material had to be recut?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bryan Schulz
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode" 
> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 9:32 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> We have a very close friend, totally blind who can do just 
> about anything.
> >>>>>> He repairs cars, he remodeled his basement, rebuilding the steps, and
> >>>>>> recently built us a porch on the back of our house.  He 
> built a beautiful
> >>>>>> deck on his own house and did it single-handedly.  He does electrical
> >>>>>> work, plumbing and just about anything else you can name.  I wish my
> >>>>>> husband could do what he can do.  It would have saved us a 
> ton of money
> >>>>>> years ago before I knew him.  Of course we paid for the 
> porch, but since
> >>>>>> he is a friend, we made a good deal.  Never under-estimate 
> the ability of
> >>>>>> a competent blind person.  With the right tools and 
> knowledge, you can do
> >>>>>> whatever you choose.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Connie Canode
> >>>>>> At 09:13 AM 12/4/2010, you wrote:
> >>>>>>> Brian,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Get a life.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Gloria Whipple
> >>>>>>> Corresponding Secretary
> >>>>>>> Inland Empire chapter
> >>>>>>> nfb of WA
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> cell number: 509-475-4993
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 8:11 PM
> >>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they 
> are?  Don't you
> >>>>>>> think there are any blind people actually involved in the building of
> >>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>> own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do much of 
> anything? Oh,
> >>>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state 
> provided reading
> >>>>>>> radio service.  Yeah, that's the life for sure.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Skype Name:
> >>>>>>> barefootedray
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> > wishful thinking...
> >>>>>>> > people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
> >>>>>>> > a relative worked on one and there were all kind of 
> worksmanship > f-ups
> >>>>>>> > and
> >>>>>>> people running everywhere.
> >>>>>>> > you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of 
> drywall > with
> >>>>>>> material and tools all over the site without falling?
> >>>>>>> > you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who owns a
> >>>>>>> > racing
> >>>>>>> team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the time
> >>>>>>> limits.
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > Bryan Schulz
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
> >>>>>>> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
> >>>>>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
> >>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> >> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can 
> implement >> it,
> >>>>>>> people would certainly get a different perspective on what 
> blind people
> >>>>>>> are
> >>>>>>> really like.
> >>>>>>> >>
> >>>>>>> >> Connie Canode
> >>>>>>> >> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of 
> only one >>> way
> >>>>>>> >>> to
> >>>>>>> stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and 
> competent blind
> >>>>>>> people on the make over crew.  Once we do that, maybe they'll get the
> >>>>>>> idea.
> >>>>>>> Barring that, maybe we ought to have some competent blind 
> people at least
> >>>>>>> helping out on a make-over project; since I'm sure they 
> wouldn't let us
> >>>>>>> officially be part of what I presume bills itself as a professional
> >>>>>>> make-over crew.
> >>>>>>> >>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>> >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> Skype Name:
> >>>>>>> >>> barefootedray
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> > Hello John and everyone,
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> >    If you take the time to read the message I sent 
> concerning an
> >>>>>>> >>> experience
> >>>>>>> >>> > we had when looking for an apartment last spring 
> you'd >>> > understand
> >>>>>>> >>> > why
> >>>>>>> > the
> >>>>>>> >>> > red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home 
> Edition >>> > continues
> >>>>>>> >>> to portray
> >>>>>>> >>> > us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
> >>>>>>> >>> modifications to the
> >>>>>>> >>> > home environment or a presumed dependency on a 
> million gadgets >
> >>>>>>> incidents
> >>>>>>> >>> > like the one I described in my message earlier this 
> morning will
> >>>>>>> >>> continue to
> >>>>>>> >>> > happen to blind people seeking housing. While we 
> can't prove >>> > that
> >>>>>>> >>> > the
> >>>>>>> >>> > manager at that apartment complex was influenced by 
> an episode >>> > of
> >>>>>>> >>> this show
> >>>>>>> >>> > where a blind person or a couple were featured if 
> this TV >>> > network
> >>>>>>> >>> continues
> >>>>>>> >>> > to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll 
> certainly be
> >>>>>>> >>> suspect in
> >>>>>>> >>> > my book.
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> > Peter Donahue
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> >>> > From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
> >>>>>>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>>> >>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
> >>>>>>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> > Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a
> >>>>>>> disability
> >>>>>>> >>> > advocate.
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> >>> > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
> >>>>>>> >>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>>> >>> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
> >>>>>>> >>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> >
> >>>>>>> >>> >> I feel the same way.  First question that came to 
> find...If >>> >> these
> >>>>>>> >>> >>  >>
> >>>>>>> people
> >>>>>>> >>> >> are
> >>>>>>> >>> >> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their
> >>>>>>> disabilities, >> and
> >>>>>>> >>> >> they have learned so much in the four years they've 
> been blind,
> >>>>>>> >>> >> why
> >>>>>>> >> can't
> >>>>>>> >>> >> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down 
> around them?
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >> Cindy
> >>>>>>> >>> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> >>> >> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> >>>>>>> >>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>>>> >>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
> >>>>>>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle?
> >>>>>>> >>> >> Anyone
> >>>>>>> >> care
> >>>>>>> >>> >> to
> >>>>>>> >>> >> guess why?
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >> Sincerely,
> >>>>>>> >>> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >> Skype Name:
> >>>>>>> >>> >> barefootedray
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
> >>>>>>> >>> >>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Q From: Mary Watkins
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages 
> Tuning into >>> >>> ABC'S
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> "Extreme
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into 
> ABC'S >>> >>> "Extreme
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> Makeover:
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Home Edition"
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those
> >>>>>>> interested >>> >>> in
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> inclusive
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> technology for people who are blind or have low 
> vision to tune
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> into
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> "Extreme
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5.
> >>>>>>> While >>> >>> we
> >>>>>>> >>> can't
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> provide any specific information on what will be 
> seen and >>> >>> heard
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> (it
> >>>>>>> >>> would
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create
> >>>>>>> much >>> >>> greater
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> awareness
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> of the services and products now available for 
> people who have
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> limited or
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> no
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> sight.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Here is the information the production company has 
> released in
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> advance
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> about
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> this episode:
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Anderson
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Family
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> action
> >>>>>>> >>> when
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> they
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> obstacles
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> facing
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into
> >>>>>>> their >>> >>> work,
> >>>>>>> >>> Andre
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> and
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and 
> counseling
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> the
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> disabled
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and
> >>>>>>> lead >>> >>> more
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be
> >>>>>>> the >>> >>> definitive
> >>>>>>> >>> role
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine 
> have never
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> let
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> anything
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> school,
> >>>>>>> >>> run a
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> center for people with disabilities, created a support
> >>>>>>> group, >>> >>> and
> >>>>>>> all
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> while
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of 
> whom is >>> >>> hearing
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> impaired).
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and
> >>>>>>> Jahzion
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> were
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have
> >>>>>>> embraced >>> >>> their
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> reality.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> While they continue to empower their community, the 
> family has
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> hit a
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> rough
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and 
> it has >>> >>> become
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> complicated
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the 
> face of >>> >>> how
> >>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> needs
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> continue to grow.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some 
> changes in >>> >>> sight
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> when
> >>>>>>> >>> Ty
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy 
> Huston, and >>> >>> Xzibit
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> deliver a
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous 
> Brothers >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> Construction
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and
> >>>>>>> give >>> >>> them
> >>>>>>> the >>> key
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> to
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The 
> Andersons will
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> vacation
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> in
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme 
> Makeover: Home
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> Edition,"
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> now
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a division of
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Endemol
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and George
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Verschoor.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> David
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show airs
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Sundays
> >>>>>>> >>> from
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a Services
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> division
> >>>>>>> >>> and a
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth Shapiro
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Family
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> National
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and delivered
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> captioned
> >>>>>>> >>> and
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> described media for nearly four decades to people in
> >>>>>>> their >>> >>> homes,
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the 
> Media Access
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Group
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> continues to develop new solutions to access 
> challenges as >>>
> >>>>>>> technology,
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> and
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of 
> the group's >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> collective
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their
> >>>>>>> success >>> is
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and continuous
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> growth,
> >>>>>>> >>> the
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> integration of innovative products and services 
> into society >>> >>> at
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> large,
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> and
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences served, 
> including 36
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>  >>>
> >>>>>>> million
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have 
> low >>> >>> vision.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> More
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH can be
> >>>>>>> found >>> >>> at:
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> http://access.wgbh.org.
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Contact:
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> Mary Watkins
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
> >>>>>>> >>> >>> 617 300-3700
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
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> >>>>>>> >>> >>>
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