[nfb-talk] Here We Go Again

Bryan Schulz b.schulz at sbcglobal.net
Sun Dec 5 16:41:36 UTC 2010


hi,

a possible idea but when it was tried for the blindness movie, in mo, it 
gave the movie much more publicity and lasted 2 weeks longer in the theater 
and it would have been gone after the first week if nfb didn't give it 
publicity.

Bryan Schulz

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again


> Good morning everyone,
>
>    If they won't put us to work on the make-over crew why not  picket the
> site? They'd love that publicity now wouldn't they?
>
> Peter Donahue
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Wm. Ritchhart" <william.ritchhart at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 8:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
>
> Ray,
>
> Actually it is not uncommon for a NASCAR team to perform major engine and
> body repairs in 30 minutes.  Generally if an engine needs to be totally
> rebuilt, it ends the day for the team.  The lost time prevents earning
> enough points to bother with the effort.
>
> I believe showing up at the home make over site would be a waste of time,
> too.  Those folks already have their beliefs that we are not capable. 
> They
> don't have the time or inclination to examine or change them.
>
> Their gig is all about making a profit for their show and giving the 
> viewers
> a nice warm feeling about how someone who the viewer believes is a 
> helpless
> soul a nice refurbished place to live.  At least until the house is lost
> through the owners inability to pay the increased property taxes.  Which 
> is
> what happens to most of the people who get sucked into allowing themselves
> to be extorted.
>
> Thanks, William
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:35 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>
> Got news for you bro.  There's no way it takes just thirty minutes. 
> You've
> heard of editing right?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Dec 3, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>
>> don't play the pity card bro!
>> i'm just telling people what happens in the real world outside of the nfb
> bubble.
>> did you understand it's the pace and not the ability?
>> the man's race team completely rebuilds a  motor in 30 minutes.
>> i would love to see the blind man actually spinning the air gun and
> working on the motor on race day but he has realized that the team has 
> more
> success when he stays out of the way and let his employees perform the
> rebuild.
>>
>> Bryan Schulz
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>
>>
>>> And what would you propose?  Leaving things the way they are?  Don't you
> think there are any blind people actually involved in the building of 
> their
> own homes?  Could it be that you don't think we do much of anything? Oh, 
> of
> course.  Sit in rocking chairs and listen to our state provided reading
> radio service.  Yeah, that's the life for sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype Name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 8:09 PM, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>
>>>> wishful thinking...
>>>> people here have no clue what happens in the one week build.
>>>> a relative worked on one and there were all kind of worksmanship f-ups
> and people running everywhere.
>>>> you really think a blind guy is going to carry sheets of drywall with
> material and tools all over the site without falling?
>>>> you don't get the pace.  just like there is a blind guy who owns a
> racing team but doesn't do the actual repair during race day due to the 
> time
> limits.
>>>>
>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
> <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 7:43 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ray, that is an absolutely awesome idea.  Now if we can implement it,
> people would certainly get a different perspective on what blind people 
> are
> really like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Connie Canode
>>>>> At 11:43 AM 12/3/2010, you wrote:
>>>>>> YOu know Peter, I was just kind of thinking.  I know of only one way
> to stop this.  What we need to do is get some independent and competent
> blind people on the make over crew.  Once we do that, maybe they'll get 
> the
> idea.  Barring that, maybe we ought to have some competent blind people at
> least helping out on a make-over project; since I'm sure they wouldn't let
> us officially be part of what I presume bills itself as a professional
> make-over crew.
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype Name:
>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Peter Donahue wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Hello John and everyone,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >    If you take the time to read the message I sent concerning an
>>>>>> experience
>>>>>> > we had when looking for an apartment last spring you'd understand
> why >  > the
>>>>>> > red flags are flying. If Extreme Make-Over Home Edition continues
>>>>>> to portray
>>>>>> > us as helpless unable to live on our own without major
>>>>>> modifications to the
>>>>>> > home environment or a presumed dependency on a million gadgets > >
> incidents
>>>>>> > like the one I described in my message earlier this morning will
>>>>>> continue to
>>>>>> > happen to blind people seeking housing. While we can't prove that
> the
>>>>>> > manager at that apartment complex was influenced by an episode of
>>>>>> this show
>>>>>> > where a blind person or a couple were featured if this TV network
>>>>>> continues
>>>>>> > to cast us as unable to manage our own home they'll certainly be
>>>>>> suspect in
>>>>>> > my book.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Peter Donahue
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
>>>>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 9:40 AM
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Well, I'd presume because you don't make a lot of money as a >
> disability
>>>>>> > advocate.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> > From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>>> > To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 8:40 PM
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> I feel the same way.  First question that came to find...If these
>>> >> people
>>>>>> >> are
>>>>>> >> so fantastic and can motivate everyone to get past their >>
> disabilities, >> and
>>>>>> >> they have learned so much in the four years they've been blind, 
>>>>>> >> why
>>>  >> can't
>>>>>> >> they maintain their house so it isn't falling down around them?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Cindy
>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>> >> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 9:16 PM
>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Here We Go Again
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> I hate to be this way, but, how come I'm already skepticle? 
>>>>>> >> Anyone
>>>  >> care
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> guess why?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Sincerely,
>>>>>> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Skype Name:
>>>>>> >> barefootedray
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Ryan O wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >>> Q From: Mary Watkins
>>>>>> >>> To: MAG_News at mail4.wgbh.org
>>>>>> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 1:06 PM
>>>>>> >>> Subject: WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S
>>>> >>> "Extreme
>>>>>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" on Sunday, December 5
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> WGBH's Media Access Group Encourages Tuning into ABC'S "Extreme
>>>> >>> Makeover:
>>>>>> >>> Home Edition"
>>>>>> >>> on Sunday, December 5 (8-9pm, EST)
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH encourages all those interested in
>>>>>> >>> inclusive
>>>>>> >>> technology for people who are blind or have low vision to tune
> into
>>>>>> >>> "Extreme
>>>>>> >>> Makeover: Home Edition" this Sunday evening, December 5. While we
>>>>  >>> can't
>>>>>> >>> provide any specific information on what will be seen and heard
> (it >>>  >>> would
>>>>>> >>> spoil the surprise!), the episode promises to create much greater
>>>>>> >>> awareness
>>>>>> >>> of the services and products now available for people who have 
>>>>>> >>>  >>>
>>>> limited or
>>>>>> >>> no
>>>>>> >>> sight.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Here is the information the production company has released in 
>>>>>> >>>  >>>
>>>> advance
>>>>>> >>> about
>>>>>> >>> this episode:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> The "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition" team has selected the
> Anderson
>>>>>> >>> Family
>>>>>> >>> in Cleveland, Ohio. The family of four answered the call to 
>>>>>> >>> action
>>>>  >>> when
>>>>>> >>> they
>>>>>> >>> inspired the community to heighten their awareness of the
> obstacles
>>>>>> >>> facing
>>>>>> >>> the disabled in their community. Diving headlong into their work,
>>>>  >>> Andre
>>>>>> >>> and
>>>>>> >>> Jasmine have dedicated their time to supporting and counseling 
>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>> >>> disabled
>>>>>> >>> by connecting them with resources to help them live and lead more
>>>>>> >>> independent lives. The Andersons have proven to be the definitive
>>>>  >>> role
>>>>>> >>> models as they themselves lost their sight 4 years ago.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Empowered by their own obstacles, Andre and Jasmine have never 
>>>>>> >>> let
>>>>>> >>> anything
>>>>>> >>> slow them down. Together they have teamed to complete grad 
>>>>>> >>> school,
>>>>  >>> run a
>>>>>> >>> center for people with disabilities, created a support group, and
>>>> all
>>>>>> >>> while
>>>>>> >>> balancing life at home with their 2 boys (one of whom is hearing
>>>>>> >>> impaired).
>>>>>> >>> Despite having lost their sight after their sons, Jasison and >>>
> Jahzion
>>>>>> >>> were
>>>>>> >>> born, Andre and Jasmine have rallied back and have embraced their
>>>>>> >>> reality.
>>>>>> >>> While they continue to empower their community, the family has 
>>>>>> >>> hit
>>>> a
>>>>>> >>> rough
>>>>>> >>> patch. Their home is falling apart around them and it has become
>>>>>> >>> complicated
>>>>>> >>> and hazardous for them to live in especially in the face of how
>>>> their
>>>>>> >>> needs
>>>>>> >>> continue to grow.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> On September 29th the Andersons will have some changes in sight
>>>> when >>> Ty
>>>>>> >>> Pennington, designers Michael Maloney, Tracy Huston, and Xzibit
>>>> >>> deliver a
>>>>>> >>> "Smart House" in just 7 days. Local builders Marous Brothers >>>
>>>> Construction
>>>>>> >>> and community volunteers will rebuild the structure and give them
>>>> the >>> key
>>>>>> >>> to
>>>>>> >>> live above and beyond their wildest dreams. The Andersons will 
>>>>>> >>>  >>>
>>>> vacation
>>>>>> >>> in
>>>>>> >>> Crested Butte, Colorado.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> About "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition"
>>>>>> >>> The Emmy-award winning reality program "Extreme Makeover: Home 
>>>>>> >>>  >>>
>>>> Edition,"
>>>>>> >>> now
>>>>>> >>> in its 8th season, is produced by Endemol USA, a division of >>>
> Endemol
>>>>>> >>> Holding. It's executive-produced Brady Connell and George >>>
> Verschoor.
>>>>>> >>> David
>>>>>> >>> Goldberg is Chairman, Endemol North America. The show airs 
>>>>>> >>> Sundays
>>>>  >>> from
>>>>>> >>> 8:00-9:00 p.m., ET on ABC.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> About the Media Access Group at WGBH
>>>>>> >>> The Media Access Group at WGBH, which includes a Services 
>>>>>> >>> division
>>>>  >>> and a
>>>>>> >>> research and development division--the Carl and Ruth Shapiro
> Family
>>>>>> >>> National
>>>>>> >>> Center for Accessible Media--has pioneered and delivered 
>>>>>> >>> captioned
>>>>  >>> and
>>>>>> >>> described media for nearly four decades to people in their homes,
>>>>>> >>> classrooms, at work and in the community. And the Media Access 
>>>>>> >>>  >>>
> Group
>>>>>> >>> continues to develop new solutions to access challenges as >>> 
>>>>>> >>>  >>>
> technology,
>>>>>> >>> and
>>>>>> >>> the way we all consume media, evolve. Members of the group's >>>
>>>> collective
>>>>>> >>> staff represent the leading experts in their fields and their >>>
> success >>> is
>>>>>> >>> exemplified by a history of accomplishments and continuous 
>>>>>> >>> growth,
>>>>  >>> the
>>>>>> >>> integration of innovative products and services into society at
>>>> >>> large,
>>>>>> >>> and
>>>>>> >>> the enthusiastic support of the audiences served, including 36 
>>>>>> >>>  >>>
>>>> million
>>>>>> >>> people who are deaf, hard of hearing, blind or have low vision.
>>>> More
>>>>>> >>> information about the Media Access Group at WGBH can be found at:
>>>>>> >>> http://access.wgbh.org.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Contact:
>>>>>> >>> Mary Watkins
>>>>>> >>> mary_watkins at wgbh.org
>>>>>> >>> 617 300-3700
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
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>>>>>> >>>
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