[nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home Makeover - blindcouple in OH
John Heim
john at johnheim.net
Mon Dec 6 21:41:56 UTC 2010
Connie, if I misinterpreted something you said, all you have to do is
explain it to me. i didn't intenttionally misinterpret anything. Besides,
I don't think I did misinterpret you.
I believe in the power of truth. If I'm wrong, just prove it. I am capable
of changing my mind but that doesn't really even matter. Just show me where
I'm wrong and let everyone else decide for themselves.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Constance Canode" <satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home Makeover -
blindcouple in OH
> John, you seem to misinterpret everything I say, so I will not argue with
> you any further. I have much more productive ways to spend my time. You
> have said some rather mean-spirited things to certain people on this list,
> and especially during this holiday season, I see no reason for it. I hope
> to never have any dealings with yu personally, even though we live in the
> same county. Enjoy your life.
>
> Connie Canode
> At 02:53 PM 12/6/2010, you wrote:
>>Constance, I never said blind people can't do plumbing. i said *typically*
>>blind people do not replace their own toilets and sinks. Typically, even
>>sighted people don't replace their own toilets and sinks. Therefore, the
>>couple was not being depicted as helpless just because they didn't replace
>>their own toilets and sinks.
>>
>>Presumably, you're not helpless. Yet, I'm willing to bet you've never
>>replaced a toilet or sink. I'm not helpless and I've never replaced a
>>toilet or sink. Not replacing a toilet or sink doesn't prove you're
>>helpless. That's just normal.
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Constance Canode"
>><satin-bear at sbcglobal.net>
>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:23 PM
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home Makeover -
>>blindcouple in OH
>>
>>
>>>I have a friend, a blind woman, who has replaced her toilet and did it by
>>>herself. I also know a blind guy who does plumbing, electrical work and
>>>building. Just because you don't choose to do it, John, and neitr do I,
>>>doesn't mean that a blind person can't do it. I see no point in
>>>stereotyping everyone into one category.
>>>
>>>Connie Canode
>>>At 01:12 PM 12/6/2010, you wrote:
>>>>One thing that really bothers me about the conversation on this list is
>>>>that people are complaining about ABC depicting this couple as helpless.
>>>>But can anyone on this list replace a toilet or a bathroom sink? I've
>>>>done things like replace garbage disposals, light fixtures, and
>>>>electrical outlets. But I don't think I'd try replacing a toilet. I
>>>>might replace a sink though. Assuming the standard hookups are already
>>>>there, you can do that. But I'm not sure that even most sighted people
>>>>would try that either.
>>>>
>>>>I guess the question is whether ABC's depiction of blind people was
>>>>inaccurate. Are these people more helpess than a typical blind couple?
>>>>
>>>>The one thing that puzzled me was the problem the woman had with cans of
>>>>food. I don't know what's in our kitchen cupboard but that's because my
>>>>wife does the cooking and shopping. When I did my own cooking and
>>>>shopping, I put magnetic braille labels on the cans. But, I suppose, its
>>>>nicer to have the bar code scanner. The woman might have played up the
>>>>problem in order to make it look good. I mean, ABC isn't going to want
>>>>to show the woman dealing with her canned food with braille and then
>>>>give her a scanner anyway.
>>>>
>>>>When you think about it, if you've got a TV show about giving people new
>>>>shirts, you have to make their old shirts look crummy. It would be lame
>>>>to give someone a new shirt if the person already has a closet full of
>>>>really nice shirts. In fact, aren't all gifts kind of an insult? Say you
>>>>buy somebody a shirt. Does that say their old shirts are crummy?
>>>>Couldn't you always say, "Well, if you didn't think I needed a new
>>>>shirt, why did you give me a new shirt? "
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Handel" <cindy425 at verizon.net>
>>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 11:16 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home Makeover -
>>>>blindcouple in OH
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Oh My! This is just terrible. It's not the first one Extreme Home
>>>>>Makeover
>>>>>has done about blind people. I hope something can be done so it's the
>>>>>last.
>>>>>It's so destructive.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cindy
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Rovig, Lorraine" <LRovig at nfb.org>
>>>>>To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 12:01 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] [NFB-talk] Here We Go Again: Home Makeover -
>>>>>blindcouple in OH
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Here We Go Again: Home Makeover Extreme Edition - blind couple in OH
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, I watched it. It was pretty bad and it could have been worse. It
>>>>>could have been a lot better too.
>>>>>
>>>>>Their original bathroom -- a sink fell off the wall once when Jasmine
>>>>>washed her hands so they had no bathroom sink; the old toilet would
>>>>>swivel left and right about 20 degrees either way if your toe pushed
>>>>>it.
>>>>>Other parts of the old home and front porch were dangerous. The part
>>>>>of
>>>>>the old house facing the street appeared to be two-rooms wide, small
>>>>>rooms, and I do not remember if it was two-story. They were given a
>>>>>two-story, large, modern home with all new appliances in the kitchen,
>>>>>laundry room, every other room, and etcetera.
>>>>>
>>>>>This is an African-American family, the Andersons of Maple Heights,
>>>>>Ohio
>>>>>(near Cleveland). I do not know if either one has a job; both appear to
>>>>>be in their early 40s. The mother, Jasmine, states she is visually
>>>>>impaired. She uses a folding cane with a fat white tip that I think is
>>>>>a
>>>>>marshmallow tip. Husband, Andre, pronounced the French way, is totally
>>>>>blind and uses a guide dog named Valentine. The show gave the dog a
>>>>>heart-shaped bed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Jasmine gave a tiny monologue stating she lost enough sight to be
>>>>>visually impaired and was depressed for awhile but then she became
>>>>>"courageous" like she is now. They never charge for their [untrained]
>>>>>counseling and encouragement of other people with disabilities. They
>>>>>give lots of speeches to educate the community how to make life easier
>>>>>for blind people and people with other disabilities.
>>>>>
>>>>>The couple told us they are in danger every time they cross a street
>>>>>and
>>>>>the camera mike was held close to trucks and cars as vehicles zoomed by
>>>>>on a city street. Jasmine said she was hit in the shoulder by a moving
>>>>>car one time. Ty Pennington, the shows' big-hearted hero,
>>>>>furniture-designer and designer of his own line of linens and other
>>>>>goods for the home, excellent carpenter and TV show leader, went on
>>>>>about how dangerous it is for blind people every day when they are
>>>>>outside the home. He got installed for the Andersons a fancy talking
>>>>>device at the single crossing nearest to their home at their bus stop.
>>>>>Jasmine told us "we're not the only blind people living here, you know"
>>>>>and, she said, this will help people with other disabilities that live
>>>>>in their neighborhood too.
>>>>>
>>>>>The show gave her a CCTV rigged to a lady's dressing table so she can
>>>>>see to put on her make-up and not have to ask her son if she did it
>>>>>okay. She got choked up that she can see her nails now and can paint
>>>>>them as she could not see to do before, and for the first time she
>>>>>exclaims, as we watch her look at it, she can see the beautiful ring
>>>>>her
>>>>>husband gave her.
>>>>>
>>>>>In the old house, Jasmine shoved up the sleeves on her dress to show Ty
>>>>>and us the many burns on her arms that she got from using her
>>>>>conventional electric 4-burner stove and oven. The show gave her
>>>>>"induction heating" which does not give out any heat except to a metal
>>>>>pot placed on the burner, and she got a wall oven so her oven is at a
>>>>>better height for her to use. The house got a talking temperature
>>>>>gauge.
>>>>>On the plus side, so the two wouldn't get lost, nothing odd was built
>>>>>into the kitchen or the walls and floors. Also on the plus side,
>>>>>except
>>>>>for the induction oven, normal if fancy Sears's appliances were placed
>>>>>in the home for the kitchen and the baths.
>>>>>
>>>>>Both Andre and Jasmine got computers that I think had JAWS installed on
>>>>>them. They got a home theatre room with one "Sound Dome" over both
>>>>>their
>>>>>heads that directs the sound directly only to them, and lets them hear
>>>>>the SAP channel along with the show. They have two very helpful,
>>>>>respectful sons (one may be age 12 and the other is a young teenager).
>>>>>Ty stated the older son got a vacation from verbalizing what is on
>>>>>screen plus he got the SAP thing with words running below the screen
>>>>>when folks talked (which he needed but I missed the part that said why
>>>>>he did). The younger son is sure he wants to grow up to be an eye
>>>>>doctor
>>>>>so he can cure blindness, beginning with his mother's visual
>>>>>impairment.
>>>>>
>>>>>Both Jasmine and Andre got brand new, fat-bodied, folding canes that
>>>>>have built-in sensors to inform them of obstacles by their head and at
>>>>>their feet, and, said Ty, "these aren't even on the market yet." Andre
>>>>>expressed their gratitude.
>>>>>
>>>>>They got a huge main room that runs from a living room grouping through
>>>>>an empty space of floor to a dining room grouping to a kitchen with no
>>>>>barriers or changes in floor, so they do not have to worry anymore
>>>>>about
>>>>>running into posts or walls, as they did run into in their cramped
>>>>>original home. I noticed they are both bulky overweight people and the
>>>>>original house doorways were older and appeared smallish, plus a post
>>>>>was inconveniently placed, especially for any overweight people trying
>>>>>to get past it to the bedrooms and bathroom.
>>>>>
>>>>>The mortgage company paid off and tore up their mortgage; the local
>>>>>branch of the state college gave them 2 college scholarships for the
>>>>>boys; Sears gave the four of them enough clothes and shoes to fill some
>>>>>of their new closets; the local basketball team called The Cavaliers,
>>>>>gave the teen-aged son a closet-full of their clothes plus 3-shelves of
>>>>>their basketballs with its metal rack. The building company gave them
>>>>>$50,000 to a fund to handle their home maintenance.
>>>>>
>>>>>Braille got a "shout out" as the modern lingo has it. Ty added
>>>>>palm-size
>>>>>wooden "dots" to their bed's headboard to spell out in grade one, "Love
>>>>>is Blind." Large print got a "shout out" too, with their top bed quilt
>>>>>decorated with "Love is Blind" sewn on as stuffed, raised-up
>>>>>hand-writing.
>>>>>
>>>>>(For me, I keep wondering how they and other Ty Pennington-show
>>>>>homeowners can afford their new taxes on their giant gifts of money,
>>>>>goods, and a huge new home.)
>>>>>
>>>>>The Andersons were so very grateful for all they received from Ty and
>>>>>Sears Company and ABC. Tears all around.
>>>>>
>>>>>You can view the entire episode on the Anderson Family via computer,
>>>>>here:
>>>>>http://abc.go.com/shows/extreme-makeover-home-edition
>>>>>Anderson Family
>>>>> | Full Episode
>>>>>A visually impaired couple devoted to helping the community receives a
>>>>>home makeover, complete with technologies that help people with
>>>>>disabilities;
>>>>>EXTREME MAKEOVER: HOME EDITION - "Anderson Family" - Andre and Jasmine
>>>>>Anderson have never allowed their visual impairment to slow them down,
>>>>>but rather have faced it head on, and established the Disability
>>>>>Awareness Center in Maple Heights, Ohio, to help others who are
>>>>>struggling with sight loss. The couple and their sons learned they
>>>>>would
>>>>>be recipients of a home makeover while aboard the public bus that they
>>>>>ride every day. The "EM: HE" team surprised them on the bus and
>>>>>revealed
>>>>>plans to give them a new "smart" home, equipped with technologies that
>>>>>support people with disabilities. This episode of "Extreme Makeover:
>>>>>Home Edition" airs SUNDAY, DECEMBER 5 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET) on the ABC
>>>>>Television Network. (ABC/MIKE CROUCH) ANDERSON FAMILY HOME - AFTER -
>>>>>BEDROOM
>>>>>
>>>>>
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