[nfb-talk] Tragedy in Denver

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Wed Dec 22 20:56:57 UTC 2010 

I understand from a friend today who call over, sharing that the ladies 
are not in the hospital any more.
that they could have been sent home to recover and do the tharipy there.
The one gal has a broken knee, a broken jaw, and her chin was broken,
makes you want to cry.
Truly sad.

Original message:
> At the stop in question, as most graduates of the center in the past
> several years can tell you, it's quite possible the three students
> were not in an enclosed space, but still an awful lot depends on
> realizing the danger is there in time to avoid it.

> Was there time to avoid it?  Well, the distance is 50-100ft.  Let's
> say the car had an average speed of 20 mph.  Obviously more of that
> at the time of impact, but we're assuming an average since the car
> was accelerating and we need a number to do the math.

> So 20 mph is 20 times 5280 or 105600 feet per hour.  That's 1760 feet
> per minute or 29.33 feet per second.  That means the most possible
> warning they could have had is about three seconds, and probably less
> than half of that.  But again, we'll assume they had half of that.
> It takes about .3 seconds to actually react.  One Mississippi, crash.

> There simply wasn't time for a person to have avoided this collision,
> sighted, blind, or moronic blogger.

> Joseph


> On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 08:40:57AM -0500, Powers, Terry (NIH/OD/DEAS) 
> [E] wrote:
>> This would have happened no matter weather the people were sighted or 
>> blind.  If you are enclosed on three sides and see something coming at 
>> you, or not, you still do not have anywhere to go because you are 
>> enclosed.  Do you run towards the car or stay where you are.  Also the 
>> car could have hit from the side of the shelter, who knows.  There was 
>> no way to escape, blind or sighted.  They were caught in a trap, due to 
>> bad weather.  I still remember falling on ice, half way under a cab, 
>> how scarry!
>> My thoughts go out to all the family's and all the school members.  The 
>> only thing that could have kept this tragity from happening would have 
>> been cleaner roads.

>> Terry Powers from MD


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: d m gina [mailto:dmgina at samobile.net]
>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 3:49 PM
>> To: nfb-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tragedy in Denver

>> Mike I don't give up easy,
>> You know that.
>> It seems to me folks decide what to stand up for, and if the head 
>> persons disagree then nothing happens.
>> If the head persons have a comment and want to have a following, then 
>> we all need to jump hoops to make it happen.
>> It seems to me, the federation would get further if everyone could see 
>> we stand up for what is important to us on a topic.
>> This would not only help the blind, to fix buss stopps but would help 
>> everyone else as well.
>> I understand accidents where there has to be a way to keep this from happening.
>> To many lives have been lost.

>> Original message:
>>> Nonsense!  It was an accident due to icy roads.  Only way to avoid
>>> this would be for everyone to stay home (both drivers and
>>> pedestrians).  Ain't gonna happen.

>>> Mike

>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
>>> To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tragedy in Denver


>>>> yes I was wondering if there is something we can do to get the cities
>>>> to fix buss stops so not only can we hear what buss is coming, but
>>>> also to stay safe.
>>>> this should be a national pull.
>>>> I'm sure this isn't the first time someone has gotten hit at a buss stop.

>>>> Original message:
>>>>> I'm in agreement with these posts. I found out about this yesterday,
>>>>> and I'm still overwhelmed with sorrow. I had just met David at the
>>>>> NFB convention in Dallas back in July. I'm praying for everyone at
>>>>> the CCB, and all of his family. Yes, they do need to make those bus
>>>>> stops safe for everyone. Let's petition congress. Blessings, Joshua

>>>>> On 12/18/10, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Many prsons who are sighted feel they are with profection.
>>>>>> So when they go blind, they feel less than a person.
>>>>>> Not putting together what that sounds like.
>>>>>> I just hope Denver and other states will come up with an idea how
>>>>>> to have a buss stop safe for everyone.

>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> The thing I don't understand is that the three were just standing
>>>>>>> there waiting for the bus. Why cannot sighted people get it
>>>>>>> through their thick skulls that it wasn't their fault.

>>>>>>> Sighted people can be so dense.

>>>>>>> It said very plainly in the article that the driver lost control
>>>>>>> of her car because of the ice.

>>>>>>> I don't get it!


>>>>>>> Gloria Whipple
>>>>>>> Corresponding Secretary
>>>>>>> Inland Empire chapter
>>>>>>> nfb of WA

>>>>>>> cell number: 509-475-4993


>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Alicia Richards
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 12:58 AM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Tragedy in Denver

>>>>>>> One of the upsetting things about yesterday's accident is that
>>>>>>> many bloggers

>>>>>>> on the Internet are saying the reason for the accident was
>>>>>>> specifically because the students were blind.  I wish people would
>>>>>>> have some common sense.  No sighted person would have been able to
>>>>>>> react quickly enough and move out of the way in time, even if they
>>>>>>> did see the car coming at them.
>>>>>>> This could have happened to any pedestrian taking public
>>>>>>> transportation.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> guess the incident being blamed on blindness does not surprise me,
>>>>>>> but it does anger me.  I find such ignorance incredibly
>>>>>>> frustrating.

>>>>>>> Alicia


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