[nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB

[Brian Miller]

Some are a pain, some are helpful -- they are not all created alike, and not
all intersections are equal either, as we all know.  I've definitely
encountered some audible signals that were a clear hazard to the blind, and
I've used others that were very helpful in letting me know when I had a
green arrow at a very busy crossing.  Obviously, knowing there is a green
arrow or walk sign doesn't mean one should dart into the street, but it can
be useful information to know that at least in theory you have the right
away.  

Brian


 

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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 9:39 PM
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I find those traffic signals to be more of a pain in the neck then helpful. 
That would be one extra thing that our tax dollars would be paying for.

Tanna Shoyo
Lincoln, NE

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> and that is why drivers must always yield to a person with a guide dog or
> white cane -- but of course drivers make mistakes too...and sometimes they
> don't study the driver's manual...but those same drivers also don't pay
> attention to traffic signals, right?
> Go flame on another list. You've already filled enough mailboxes on this
> topic several rounds over.
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John G. Heim" <jheim at math.wisc.edu>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 12:49 PM
> Subject: [nfb-talk] Why I Can't ignore the NFB
>
>
> from
>
> http://nfb.org/legacy/bm/bm03/bm0301/bm030103.htm
>
>
>
> -- begin quote --
>
> Mike Freeman: "We didn't need audible pedestrian signals, nor did we need
> detectable warnings to walk the streets with safety and grace."
>
>
>
> -- end quote --
>
>
> Man, this really steams my wheaties. I was recently in San Rafael,
> California getting a new guide dog from GDB. After one night training
> session, the instructor told us that about half of the students crossed
> against the light at a particular intercection. These are people with 
> proven
> mobility skills as GDB checks that out before the admit students.
>
> The point is that anyone can make a mistake.  You might think that as new
> guide dog trainees, the students were distracted or not at their best. But
> that's not unusual. People are sometimes distracted or distressed and they
> cross streets anyway. That's life.
>
> People aren't perfect. They make mistakes. Most likely, everyone reading
> this message has crossed against the lights at one time or another. And 
> even
> if you haven't, others have. You may be perfect but that doesn't mean you
> should dismiss the needs of those who aren't.
>
> The truth is that audible walk signals make us safer. The NFB, with its
> bizarre, capricious policies has helped make this world less safe for the
> very people it is supposed to protect.
>
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