[nfb-talk] Explanation of traffic lights and pedestrian signals

T. Joseph Carter carter.tjoseph at gmail.com
Wed May 26 00:52:59 UTC 2010

With respect, we DID look at them in that light.  And we found that 
the signals in use at the time drowned out the sounds of the traffic 
that would tell us when it was safe to cross the street.  As such, we 
opposed them.

It is worth noting that the NFB had a hand in the design of the first 
audible signals that dynamically adapted to ambient noise conditions 
and included tactile feedback by holding the button for an extended 

At the time, the ACB president argued with me vehemently that such 
signals were woefully unsuited to use by some, and shouting that this 
was yet another example of the NFB trying to dictate what a blind 
person should need, and rejecting anything that did not meet our 
standards of a model blind person.

Incidentally, the last major organized protest against the things was 
just before the new signals began to be adopted.


On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 03:25:54PM -0500, ROBYN R WALLEN wrote:
>the whole point is APS signals do  not give any more information audibly
>than what a person with sight ses.  you still need the skills to make a
>proper decision on when to cross and how to cross.  The signals never
>were intended to say it was safe to go.  NFB meeds to look at APS signals
>in the proper light.  (pardon the pun).
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