[nfb-talk] Fw: Penn State - NFB Files complaint against

[John Heim]

Doh! Sorry. I hate it when people mention an open source project and don't 
include a link and this time I did it myself.

http://www.nvda-project.org/

Be prepared for a fairly steep learning curve if you try nvda. Their 
approach is quite a bit different from that taken by jaws.  But there is a 
fairly active support email list that you can subscribe to by sending a 
message to nvda-request at freelists.org <nvda-request at freelists.org>




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
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Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Penn State - NFB Files complaint against


> Where do you find this animal?
>
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Heim" <john at johnheim.net>
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> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 5:00 PM
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>> Well, I agree with your main point but you don't necessarily have to go 
>> to Apple if you want a free screen reader. There are a couple of free 
>> screen readers for Windows. The one I am most familiar with is called 
>> nvda.
>>
>> So I don't know if VoiceOver is scaring Microsoft as  much as it is 
>> scaring Freedom Scientific.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 4:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Penn State - NFB Files complaint against
>>
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>>> That would still be to the education factor.  Whatever made them do it, 
>>> I think it is really cool they did.  I'm thinking seriously of taking 
>>> advantage of it.
>>>
>>> It would also seem to me that with tightening budgets, state agencies 
>>> who buy computers and such for their clients are going to have to look 
>>> more at Apple.  It doesn't take long for real savings to start adding up 
>>> if the speech is already there, versus buying a computer and then still 
>>> paying Jaws or Window-eyes or someone another $1200 or so to make the 
>>> thing talk to you. I believe it will be interesting to watch this in the 
>>> future.
>>>
>>> Loren
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Ryan O" <ryano218 at comcast.net>
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>>> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 3:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Fw: Penn State - NFB Files complaint against
>>>
>>>
>>>>I thought apple made their machines accessible due to a lawsuit filed by 
>>>>a
>>>> kid in the Maine public school system.
>>>>
>>>> RyanO
>>>>
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