[nfb-talk] LookTell

Sun Apr 24 13:06:50 UTC 2011

Mike,

I use an app called Where To? on the iPhone which has a custom view 
for its first screen.  Rather than have a simple list of items, it 
has a circular wheel of icons that easily identifies categories for 
you.  This screen was inaccessible, until I contacted the developers.  
They fixed it in the very next update.

Another application basically displays HTML content, generated out of 
a database.  Toolbar buttons activate a Javascript function that 
increases or decreases the font size with a cap at a given size.  
Though I specified in my request that I needed either a change in the 
font face to be able to read the screen or about four point sizes 
larger maximum font size (which can be done by editing one number in 
this Javascript file), they won't do it.  This application provides 
mass readings and I use it literally sitting in the pew, so I don't 
wish to use it with VoiceOver (which could read that part of the 
program well enough.)

Custom views or standard ones, if the developer wants it to be made 
accessible, it's easily done.  If not, even the most trivial request 
can be ignored.

Joseph

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 05:28:36PM -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
>I see.  Thanks.
>
>In any event, I wish we could ween those sighted programmers from their
>custom views.  I don't think human civilization will perish due to excess
>CO2; I think it will perish due to excess bling! (smirk)
>
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 5:07 PM
>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] LookTell
>
>That's actually not hard at all.  The only reason so many apps are not
>accessible out of the box is that they use custom views that require the
>programmer to implement a method to define what VoiceOver should say.  They
>don't care to do it, so the controls say nothing.
>
>It's the equivalent of putting an alt tag on an image, and it's just about
>that difficult to do.  In other words, the programmer needs only to want it
>done and take a few minutes to make it happen.  And yet the developers of a
>great many applications simply cannot be bothered to do it.
>
>Joseph
>
>
>On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 10:15:30AM -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
>>One of the "gotchyas" in porting the KNFB Reader Mobile software to the
>>iPhone is coming up with a user interface compatible with the
>>touch-screen in general and VoiceOver in particular.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2011 12:10 AM
>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] LookTell
>>
>>I'm half expecting to hear before too long that the KNFB Reader
>>software is available for the iPhone 4 and 5.  As noted elsewhere, the
>>iPhone 4 has a suitable camera, though other Apple devices do not.  The
>>hardware is pretty much the same on all major modern smartphones, it's
>>just a question of operating system and application software.
>>
>>There's nothing terribly unique about the KNFB Reader's supported hardware.
>>All that matters is porting the software to the appropriate operating
>>system and working out how to put it on to the appropriate devices.
>>
>>Presently, you can only get iPhone software from the App Store (without
>>a jailbreak of course), but this comes at a 30% cut of the sale price
>>for Apple.  I do not know if that's reasonable at this point or not.
>>
>>Joseph
>>
>>
>>On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 12:54:43PM -0600, Ryan O wrote:
>>>Ed, I have an iPhone and use LookTell. It is a damn neat app. I wish
>>>I'd owned it when I was a cashier.
>>>
>>>I think the day may be coming when mainstream cell phone technology
>>>renders the KNFB Reader obsolete.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>RyanO
>>>
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