[nfb-talk] Convention

Tue Aug 2 21:21:14 UTC 2011

I don't get your point. Who do you think I'm judging?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention

> Judge not that ye be not judged.
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of John Heim
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 6:59 AM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>
> My opinion is that it would help the organization quite a bit to allow
> people who don't attend the convention to vote. The people who attend the
> conventions are the best of the best. The result is that the NFB doesn't 
> do
> a great job of representing those who are struggling a little bit more 
> with
> their disability.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 1:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>
>
>> Loren, these are very valid points. While I continue to support the
>> principles of NFB I have become frustrated by many of the practices of 
>> the
>
>> organization as they are antiquated and portray an approach that 
>> indicates
>
>> a "one size fits all" mentality. There needs to be greater flexibility in
>> many areas. There have been many successes such as the implementation of
>> NFB newsline and court victories such as the Target law suit although it
>> would have been nice had it been a broader one, just to name a couple.
>> Chuck
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>>
>>
>>> One sign that an organization of any kind is dying is when it takes the
>>> attitude, "we've never done it that way before".  Times are changing. 
>>> An
>
>>> organization or business cannot afford to chase people the same way they
>>> did 20 30 years ago.  This in no way means they must change the corp
>>> beliefs of the organization.  But just because it wasn't done that way 
>>> in
>
>>> the past, is not a reason to do it now.  If that was the ccase, the 
>>> blind
>
>>> would not have made any advances at all.  We changed the paradigm out
>>> there, and fortunately, it is still changing.  Streaming is not just for
>>> those who will not go to convention or can't go, it is a way to get the
>>> message out to the general public.  If we take the attitude that if you
>>> cant beg borrow or steal your way to convention, then you cant hear or
>>> share what happened or was said, then why publish a summary in the
>>> monitor?
>>>
>>> Like it or not, society is changing.  Who really cares if we change what
>>> it means to be blind, and the blind are still two centuries behind the
>>> rest of the world?
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 5:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello Lauren and everyone,
>>>>
>>>>    With that kind of outlook it's true. We've fought the dragons of 
>>>> hell
>
>>>> to
>>>> make it to convention and succeeded many times. We feel we've set a
>>>> great
>>>> example for others to follow.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Loren Wakefield" <isaiah5719 at mchsi.com>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 4:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The thing to do is get the stream working or not do it at all.  It
>>>> sounds
>>>> like we are getting it down.  Things will work better next time.
>>>> Streaming
>>>> probably will benefit more than those who are already members as well.
>>>> And
>>>> as much as we may wish to do so, it is impossible for all who want to
>>>> attend
>>>> to do so.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Peter Donahue" <pdonahue2 at satx.rr.com>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 10:35 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello again everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>    The ultimate solution is to quit complaining about the stream and
>>>>> start
>>>>> now to plan to be with us in Dallas next year and at future Orlando
>>>>> conventions. From what I hear there will be a lot of them.  Get busy
>>>>> now,
>>>>> wrestle up the bucks now and we'll see you in Dallas and beyond.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter Donahue
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim,
>>>>> What do you mean? Are you saying the banquet wasn't available live due
>>>>> to
>>>>> technical issues?
>>>>> I agree the convention is important to stream, but due to work and
>>>>> family
>>>>> events, I only got to hear it a few times.
>>>>> I heard it more live last year and it was very clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>>> From: James Aldrich
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:48 PM
>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jim,
>>>>>
>>>>> The banquet wasn't available to me but I probably got in much too 
>>>>> late!
>
>>>>> I
>>>>> think we need to show our leaders how important this streaming is to 
>>>>> us
>>>>> and
>>>>> we need to keep it out front!  It is truly important and it does 
>>>>> indeed
>>>>> get
>>>>> our message out!  I too enjoyed what I heard from the stream!
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Jim" <jp100 at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "Jim" <jp100 at earthlink.net>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 2:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds like it was a wonderful convention.  Once the streams got 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> working right, I was able to hear and see what all was going on. 
>>>>>> Very
>>>>>> informative.  The banquet was also great last night.  A few times, 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> stream went out, but again, that was temporary.  I was able to get
>>>>>> most
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the speech.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, for all who went, I hope you had a great time and I'm glad
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> those of us who couldn't go could at least take part in the listening
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> sessions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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