[nfb-talk] Braille Monitor

Michael Hingson info at michaelhingson.com
Wed Aug 3 21:54:00 UTC 2011


I find that people do read the Monitor in all versions.  I constantly get
calls from seniors who read the cd version, for example, who want more
information about the KnfbReader Mobile.

Mike, to use your argument, how many people read the Braille edition?  Some
would claim Braille readers are the smallest population.  However, we still
publish in Braille and should publish in Braille.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Prows, Bennett (HHS/OCR)
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:49 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Braille Monitor

Financial discipline.  Sounds familiar.  Some folks use financial discipline
to maliciously cut programs they don't want, like, believe in, or otherwise
think are big government run amuck.  I am sure we don't think the Braille
Monitor is not important.  As you say, we still need it.  If for no other
reason than for documenting the history and realities of blindness, and
related things.

/s/

Bennett Prows
-----Original Message-----
From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 2:31 PM
To: NFB Talk Mailing List
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Braille Monitor

Being a doubter by profession, I wonder how relevant it really is that the
fastest-growing population of blind people is that of senior citizens? How
many of these will actually admit that they're blind and of this subset, how
many will actually read the Monitor (or the Forum, for that matter(? I
realize that the demographics of the several affiliates are varied. And I
also realize that hope springs eternal. But in my affiliate, precious few
seniors hang upon every word of the Monitor each month. This is not to
disparage the relevance of the Monitor but, rather, to question how large
the actual or even potential audience is for versions of the Monitor other
than Braille or on-line (either Braille, text or audio). I am not saying we
shouldn't try to reach the widest possible audience. But at some point, we
ought to admit that financial discipline may play a role.

Mike Freeman
sent from my iPhone


On Aug 3, 2011, at 14:04, <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> Hi,
> Remember that the fastest growing population of legally blind people is
the seniors. They cannot use a computer or may not have access to one.
> I think CD players are a fine alternative. CD players are still very
simple to operate and all ages can use them.
> Another good solution is the
> usb drive thing; but as  you said  its too expensive. Because  legally
blind seniors have access to the free NLS player, I think something
compatable with it is a good solution.
> Ashley
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: David Evans
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:15 PM
> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Braille Monitor
> 
> Dear All,
> 
> I can understand the national's reasoning in stopping the audio tape
version
> of the Braille Monitor.
> 
> They are likely looking at the replacement of the duplication equipment
for
> doing the Monitor and the issue of a fading technology and the emergence
of
> newer technologies that will replace the former.
> I have produced audio tape newsletters for my chapter since 1989 and also
> for the Florida State Affiliate.
> It is about time for us to move on to the next technology for use as our
> Mass Media for communicating to our membership and friends.
> Audio tapes are on the way out and that is just the way it is.  The
question
> is, what will best replace them and how soon.
> It has been said that most of our members have and can access the Monitor
by
> e-mail or on-line.  It is possible to read the monitor using NFB NEWSLINE
> for the Blind using a computer or telephone.
> This still leaves out some elderly members  who do not have a computer or
do
> not have NFB NEWSLINE in their areas but still use the Talking Book
Library
> audio tape machines and understand the technology.
> Doctor Mauer spoke about this all at the convention and that they were
> looking at several possibilities including USB drives that could just be
> plugged into the USB port on the new digital Talking Book Machines or any
> USB port on a computer or other device.
> The problem is that these USB thumb drives cost about $6.00  each and that
> is too much.
> 
> 
> Another media that might be used is a CD Rom disc or one that is modified.
> These could be as little as 3 cents each and could be played on many CD
> players, computers and such.  The file formats could be recorded in a
> variety of file types that would make this media easy to copy and use.  As
> CD players are very common now, even most of the elderly have access to
them
> and even those who do not yet have a new Talking Book player can likely
find
> a CD player they can use.
> We must find a way to reduce the cost of the production of the Braille
> Monitor, but at the same time extend its availability to as many as
> possible.  Even this technology will have a short life span, but It might
> get the Monitor through to the point that our membership population
catches
> up to newer technology or dies off.
> These are just my thoughts on the subject and I would like to hear what
> others have to say on the matter.
> 
> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Joseph Carter"
<carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Braille Monitor
> 
> 
>> For what a CD costs anymore, someone in the chapter can produce half a
dozen of them for those members for the cost of one cassette.
>> 
>> Joseph - kf7qzc
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 03, 2011 at 05:51:57AM -0700, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>> This is unfortunate as we have many elderly members of our chapter who
are not computer users or Braille readers. I would think that the cassette
version would continue to be a good outreach tool to get new federationsits.
>>> Chuck
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Meskys" <edmeskys at roadrunner.com>
>>> To: "nfb-talk" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:56 PM
>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Braille Monitor
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I am surprised that no one has referred to Dr. Maurer's announcement of
the end of the cassette edition of the Braille Monitor after the December
issue. Computer users will be encouraged to download it, but no decision has
yet been made as to what will be done for non-computer users. A possibility
is thumb drives, which can be cheaper than the cartridges. We are supposed
to get a full announcement in September. In answer to a question, we were
told that it cannot be placed on BARD, but downloads will have to be from an
NFB site.
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