[nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on

Jeanette Fortin jeanette at fortin-home.com
Tue Jul 5 21:36:23 UTC 2011 

have you ever looked into getting a scholarship from the national office?  i 
understand that can be done.  i went last year with help from our state and 
found out later i could have applied for help from national.  i would love 
to go every year, couldn't this year due to moving but am hoping to go back 
to dallas next year and go each year after if i can figure out a way to go. 
jeanette
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on


> Oh I would love to go every year,
> so many persons I would love to meet.
> One problem, way to much money and wow it gets higher and higher in price 
> loll.
> Not all of us Montana folks can swing it smile.
> I am pleased for those who can go though.
> Wonder if there could be a way, discounts could be given for those states 
> who don't have large groups who can go.
> Or is there something like this in effect already.
> I keep sharing with Jim I would love to take a tour of the nfb in 
> Maryland.
> I think it is called the convention center?
> Now I could be wrong with that name.
> Just a dream I hope will come true some day.
>
> Original message:
>> The fact that the Convention is streamed to any degree is huge progress.
>> Marc made it clear to me years ago that were he to have his way, none of 
>> it
>> would be streamed.  The leadership wanted all to attend in person.  Not 
>> via
>> internet.  The fact that for the past few years the Conventions are being
>> streamed in part or full is huge progress and a huge change from what 
>> Marc
>> stated to me long ago.
>
>> I am hoping to catch a little of it.  So I hope they get the kinks worked
>> out soon.
>
>> Thanks, William
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of James Aldrich
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 1:03 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>> Hi Dave  and list,
>
>> To answer your question, I'm certain if I had been involved, things would 
>> be
>
>> worse (grin smile)!  I'm starting to learn how to send my own audio 
>> files.
>
>> The problem is not those involved with the stream!  One is doing the best
>> they can with what they have available!  I'm certain good people are
>> involved including yourself and that in itself is a good thing!  The 
>> problem
>
>> is streaming coventions aren't a high priority with the NFB. Equipment 
>> may
>> work at the home office but get it on the scene, forget it!  This 
>> nonsense
>> of not getting the stream has been happening for a good 5 years or more
>> perhaps.  I think more people would take advantage of it if it worked! 
>> It
>> is that plain and simple to me!  The opposition not only streams their
>> convention live successfully every year, it is available on demand in its
>> intirity throughout  the year!  Anyone who can stand to hear it can do 
>> so!
>> I think we definitely need to put more of a priority to this than we 
>> have!
>> We certainly have a good track record when we put our mind to something! 
>> It
>
>> gets done!  This is one of the things which needs to work much better 
>> than
>> it has!  What is happening now isn't working or hasn't worked well!
>> Therefore, it is roop goldburg to me, why bother?  I would like to be
>> bothered and if I can't listen at a particular time, I could listen 
>> later!
>> This is the age of the Iphone, and other smart phones where people can
>> listen where they are, on a bus, outside or heaven only knows where!
>> Perhaps Voice of the Nation's Blind should be a full time radio station
>> which sells time to those wishing to buy time to present something! 
>> Perhaps
>
>> it could evolve into being able to pay people to run the operation, what 
>> a
>> novel idea!  I'm certain too the NFB could partner with various entaties 
>> to
>> achieve a more successful dependable stream!  If various states can 
>> stream
>> their conventions, why can't the national do the same successfuly?  I 
>> think
>> if it worked, you'd have many people listening whether at the convention
>> itself or whether at home or on the go!  This definitely is one area 
>> where
>> the NFB hasn't done its job as well  as it could be done! How cool it 
>> would
>> be to dial it up or download it from Newsline perhaps!
>
>> I wish I could wave a magic wand or have the expertise to fix things but 
>> I
>> don't!  The fact of the matter is, how many people would listen is flawed
>> because the stream itself is flawed so if the whole world knows the 
>> stream
>> doesn't work, why bother?
>
>> I'll keep trying throughout the day, but I think your being at convention
>> would be a good time to address this issue especially when one considers 
>> the
>
>> rising costs of everything!  If I could listen dependably, I could Email 
>> or
>> phone my state affiliate representative to tell him how I'd like him to 
>> vote
>
>> on certain matters!  One could participate in this way and the NFB would 
>> be
>> available for all the world to hear if they wished!  Our critics say we
>> aren't an open and above board organization!  Therefore, some might say 
>> this
>
>> is why streaming isn't a priority!
>
>> All I am saying is we haven't done well in this area!
>
>> Jim
>
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com>
>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>>> Jim:
>
>>> How do you know that the NFB is using a rube goldberg approach?  Were 
>>> you
>>> involved in the planning and execution?
>
>>> I am sorry too that it isn't working but you and everybody else seem to 
>>> be
>
>>> pretty eager to condemn without knowing what is going on.  They are 
>>> trying
>
>>> to offer the stream in 3 different formats this year, the schedule, 
>>> URL's
>>> etc. were announced in advance -- this hardly seems rube goldberg to me.
>
>
>>> Also, I listened to stream last year, and the most listeners I ever saw 
>>> on
>
>>> at once was about 150 during banquet, most of time under 100.  So people
>>> ask, and bitch and moan when it doesn't work, but it doesn't look like 
>>> it
>>> is that widely used to me.
>
>>> Dave
>
>>> At 09:34 AM 7/5/2011, you wrote:
>>>> Hello
>>>> All!
>
>>>> I'm afraid the NFB hasn't ever been serious about live streaming audio
>>>> especially when it comes to conventions.  I fully realize that this is 
>>>> an
>>>> expense but with the costs going up to go to conventions, I think the
>>>> expense could be justified.  Until that happens,we will always have 
>>>> this
>>>> roop goldburg approach to streaming conventions.  I wish it weren't so 
>>>> but
>
>>>> one cannot depend on the stream nor hear it at a later time till the
>>>> Monitor comes out.
>
>>>> Jim
>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:36 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>>>>> I can't hear anything.  When I try to open up the windows media 
>>>>> stream, I
>
>>>>> get a page error.  Same thing with all the other streams.  I have a
>>>>> direct file download for the mp3 stream and it comes up with no audio
>>>>> either. Frankly, I am beginning to wonder whether they know what 
>>>>> they're
>>>>> doing!
>
>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>> barefootedray
>
>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
>>>>> On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:22 AM, mr. hooper wrote:
>
>>>>>> ac tually it is on but i think their audio board isn't set up right 
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you turn your volume way up you can here it.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 8:14 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] I think they forgot to turn it on
>
>
>>>>>>> Hey,
>
>>>>>>> I think they forgot to turn the streaming for the convention on.
>>>>>>> Nothing is active right now and it's already 15 minutes past the
>>>>>>> starting time!!!!
>
>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>> barefootedray
>
>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
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