[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Mon Jul 11 18:11:32 UTC 2011

Let me know when it is.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherri" <flmom2006 at gmail.com>
To: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" 
<nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

> As a state affiliate, we have bantered back and forth about a convention 
> cruise. You don't have to pay for food since it is included in the price. 
> There are meeting rooms and cruise ships hold thousands of people. What 
> does everyone think? (smile).
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
> To: "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>
>
>>I could go for Hawaii *smile*
>> I was there a semester and would love an excuse to spend the money to 
>> take
>> some family members out that way.
>> I also have never been to Alaska. (Hey, it's summer after all.)  Or while
>> we're at it, go to Jamaica or the Bahamas...
>> I know, won't happen, but I can dream.
>> --le
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Brian Miller" <brian-r-miller at uiowa.edu>
>> To: "'NFB Talk Mailing List'" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>>
>> Hi Mike and all,
>>
>> I also have to think there is a preference on the part of our national
>> leadership to focus less time and energy on  finding new locations each 
>> year
>> and on doing the work of the organization -- which is to make sure the 
>> voice
>> of the blind is heard, not to run conventions.
>>
>> Therefore locking in arrangements for half a decade must result in a
>> significant amount of relief on the part of the office in Baltimore and
>> presumably free up time better spent on fighting discrimination against 
>> the
>> blind.
>>
>> However, it also can be said we have far more staff on hand to do the
>> legwork than we once did back when we were moving all around the country.
>>
>> I say let's all go to Hawaii... We'll take a year off, save some money, 
>> sell
>> tons of the World's Finest Chocolate, and have the convention of a
>> lifetime... What say ye?  *smile*
>>
>> Brian M
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 5:32 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>> Brian:
>>
>> You and I are on the same wavelength. I can't speak to California but I 
>> know
>> it's gotten *much* harder to get *any* contract concessions from hotels 
>> here
>> in the state of Washington in the time between 1996 and now. It's a whole
>> different ballgame. But, like you, I wish we had conventions out here.
>> Either that or charter an airline. (grin)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Brian Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 2:05 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> Well, I'm not one to casually quaff poison, but I wonder if there has 
>> been
>> much effort to secure sub-$100 rooms outside of the south in recent years
>> (Detroit notwithstanding)?  We got fabulous rates at the Anaheim Hilton 
>> in
>> 1996, after all.
>>
>> I also think that perhaps $80-$90 could be considered, given that many
>> conventioneers  share rooms, and, that we've shortened the week by one 
>> day.
>>
>>
>> I very much appreciate the conscientiousness of our leadership and
>> convention planners to keep costs as absolutely low as possible given the
>> economic hardships too many of our fellow federationists experience, but 
>> I
>> do wish we would at least make an effort to spread our wings a little
>> further... And perhaps we have done so, but to no avail, I simply don't 
>> know
>> personally.
>>
>> Brian M
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 3:55 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>> I don't think 2018 has been set yet. And the emails here point out that 
>> one
>> person's tea is another person's poison. But I do wish the conventions 
>> were
>> out here on the Left Coast occasionally. But unless enough people vote to
>> allow rates to go up to over $100 a night at a minimum, it ain't a-gonna
>> happen.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of bookwormahb at earthlink.net
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:25 PM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>> It would be great to have it in FL in 2018! I'd try to make that one! As 
>> to
>> the east coast, why not?
>> Several cities on the east coast could handle the convention size. As I 
>> live
>> on the east coast, this would be much more convenient to me. I could get 
>> a
>> ride or take the train.
>> It was in Phililidelphia one year and that would be a convenient place to
>> have it again.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Brian Miller
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 1:59 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> So we will be in Orlando in 2018?
>>
>> I seem to recall that our 1996 convention in Anaheim, the last one on the
>> west coast, rivaled, but did not beat, our attendance in New Orleans in
>> 1997.  And New Orleans, I believe, has not been beat for attendance in 
>> the
>> 14 years since we were there.
>>
>> I have to believe that Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Salt 
>> Lake,
>> and a half dozen other places could easily handle a convention the size 
>> of
>> ours.  I have to think that it helps our bottom line to be on the east
>> coast, or no more than a 2.5 hour flight from it, as we send a whole lot 
>> of
>> people from Baltimore, which could make a west coast venture expensive.
>>
>> Brian M
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:44 PM
>> To: 'NFB Talk Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>> Ray:
>>
>> That's also what I remember.
>>
>> I don't remember who asked but the 2013 convention may not be at the 
>> Rosen
>> Shingle Creek Resort but may be at one of the other rosen properties, as,
>> for example, the rosen Center which was one of the overflow hotels. One 
>> of
>> the contract terms for conventions at rosen properties is that Rosen 
>> Hotels
>> gets to choose the venue from three (I believe) Rosen properties in the
>> area.
>>
>> I will forbear from entering extensively into the debate about where
>> conventions should be held. In fact, I, too, wish conventions could be 
>> held
>> in the West. For some of us, airfare tends to erase much of the savings 
>> we
>> get with our wonderfully low hotel rates. However, as David Andrews has
>> pointed out, when we were at hotels West of the Mississippi, we had much
>> smaller attendance than we do now. We're too big for many of the hotels 
>> we
>> used to use and not quite large enough for the megahotels that handle
>> conventions of ten thousand or more. As Joseph Carter has pointed out, we
>> face a Hobson's choice in trying to negotiate convention venues. And 
>> we're
>> having to eat shuttle costs.
>>
>> But even though cost of air travel to Orlando from Portland, Oregon, was
>> outrageous, this was one of the best conventions I've been to in many, 
>> many
>> years.
>>
>> Mike Freeman
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:08 AM
>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>> I believe the dead zone was on TMobile.
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>>
>> Facebook:
>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Mike Freeman wrote:
>>
>>> My AT&T phone worked everywhere I tried it.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> On Jul 10, 2011, at 0:53, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not to mention which, one of the dead zones just happens to be right
>>>> at
>> the platform itself.  A rather embarrasing fact for one fellow who was 
>> going
>> to give a demonstration of the Icon 18 or something.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>
>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>
>>>> Skype name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>>
>>>> Facebook:
>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 9, 2011, at 11:43 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer was
>> really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can work
>> something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat.  I 
>> certainly
>> have no objection to the hotel making money-but the incidental fees are 
>> both
>> too high and too frequent to be comfortable.  There isn't even lobby wifi
>> access without a fee, and the hotel is full of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013
>>>>>> through 2017 will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the
>>>>>> length of the convention back to how it was and NFB would organize
>> tours for Wednesday afternoon.
>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to
>>>>>> go
>> places.
>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep
>>>>>> people here for five years in a row, we need to give them ample
>>>>>> opportunity to take advantage of all there is to do in Orlando.
>>>>>> Besides, I like the banquet the night before the last day of
>> convention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
>>>>>> John Lennon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>>>> NFBF NewslineR chair
>>>>>> www.nfbnewsline.org
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>>>>>> Secretary FDCP INC www.fdcp.org Chair Orange County Disability
>>>>>> Advisory Committee
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