[nfb-talk] TSA discrimination in Orlando

Mon Jul 11 18:49:26 UTC 2011

The people on the planes both directions were courteous and 
well-informed as to the practices employed by the blind when 
traveling.  The airport personnel likewise.  And TSA on the outbound 
trip as well.  But on the return trip, the TSA demonstrated a 
profound lack of knowledge of their own regulations and were not 
about to be told by some blind guy what they were.

They want the whole affair kept quiet because by now they know they 
screwed up (though probably not exactly how), which is precisely the 
reason I do not want the affair kept quiet.  I want these people to 
be trained in working with blind travelers—especially if we’re going 
to see them again and again for years to come.

I’m not so foolish as to believe I will receive an apology for the 
retaliation, the threats, or the intimidation.  That’s how we do 
business in America these days, the Chicago way.  We’ve been 
Community Organized, and I know you don’t think that’s a bad thing.  

But I’ll be damned if I’m going to let them continue to break their 
own regulations and punish people who know what they are for pointing 
it out when they’re breaking them.  We have fought too long to lose 
our fundamental right not to be led around like children and to be 
treated with basic human dignity.

I was perfectly ready to be patted down for refusing to step into a 
radiation-using scanner as a cancer patient.  Cost of doing business 
with Obama’s TSA, because the law says they can do that.  It does not 
say they can force me to be led around like a child or take punitive 
action against me because I know the regs better than they do where 
they concern blindness.

Joseph

On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:27:30PM -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
>Understood. I'm just saying I wouldn't have worried about it overly-much. To
>each his/her own. At least you weren't made to sit on a blanket like sue
>Ammeter was (apparently on the theory that finding the lavatory was
>exceeding difficult for the blind when flying).
>
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:00 PM
>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] TSA discrimination in Orlando
>
>Mike,
>
>They insisted that I needed to travel sighted guide, hanging on like
>a child.  Nothing else was permitted, and any resistance got me the
>full punitive screening.
>
>Joseph
>
>On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:31:36PM -0700, Mike Freeman wrote:
>>Joseph:
>>
>>In my opinion, your outrage is misplaced. Courts all the way up to the
>>Supreme Court have ruled that civil rights are extensively modified in
>>airports and that, in effect, TSA can violate your personal space in ways
>>that would not be tolerated in other settings. I know some will disagree
>>with me here but if one can't walk three feet through a metal detector
>>without one's cane, one is pretty badly off! Abstract principles don't
>>matter in these cases: as I say, you won't win in court.
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:33 AM
>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: [nfb-talk] TSA discrimination in Orlando
>>
>>I am copying Scott LaBarre on this message for his opinion, but have
>>not done so openly to keep him from receiving every single reply to
>>this message as well.
>>
>>I had absolutely no trouble in my home state of Oregon getting
>>through Transportation Security Administration security screening.
>>The TSA officials at Portland International Airport know the blind
>>quite well, and they know the laws.  They follow them.
>>
>>In Florida, however, returning from convention, I was told that I was
>>required by law to relinquish my cane and step through the scanner
>>with a sighted guide.  I said that once scanned, I could step through
>>with my cane.  It contains metal only on its tip.
>>
>>The TSA official told me that was against the law.
>>
>>I insisted that it was not, and offered to share the specific
>>regulations in question.
>>
>>The TSA officer did not want to see the regulations.  She told me
>>that hundreds of blind people were coming through the airport, and
>>not one single person before me had protested being required to
>>travel without their cane.
>>
>>I once again offered the copy of the regulations, which were not
>>accepted.  Another officer offered to send a supervisor at this
>>point, which the officer declined as well.
>>
>>I was told at that point that I would be allowed to have my cane, but
>>that the consequence of my unwillingness to comply with being
>>stripped of my dignity would be a full security pat-down.  I was told
>>this before I ever stepped through the metal detector.
>>
>>I did not set off the metal detector upon stepping through, as you
>>might predict using a rigid fiberglass NFB cane.  I was, however,
>>still subjected to the humiliating additional screening as a punitive
>>matter.
>>
>>During this full security pat-down, I was forced, in full view of
>>other passengers, to remove articles of clothing, had my groin and
>>other personal areas felt by security personnel, and tested for
>>explosive chemical residues among other things.  I was told that this
>>was all being done because I had in fact set off the metal detector,
>>though it had made no sound when I passed through it as it had when
>>the officer before me had done so.
>>
>>After another five minutes, most (but not all) of my belongings were
>>returned to me.  The TSA officers refused to account for my things,
>>and threatened arrest when I would not leave the testing area,
>>without the return of all of my possessions.  To defuse this
>>situation, an officer who had not been part of the preceding was came
>>over and located my missing items and returned them to me.
>>
>>I want to know why it is that the government is permitted to treat
>>the blind in this shameful way?  And to whom do we register our
>>formal, written complaint?  At the very least, the TSA of this
>>particular airport need training in the law concerning passengers
>>with disabilities.  More properly, a full investigation of the
>>repeated lies and attempts by officers to cover up this incident
>>through threats and intimidation is also warranted.
>>
>>TSA records video of their checkpoints, and I think that video will
>>show, for example, that I did not actually set off the metal detector
>>upon passing through it, among other things.  They do not record
>>audio, however, so we may not be able to prove the lies, the threats,
>>and the intimidation unless others were denied their canes (which I
>>already know they were) and any others stood up for their rights
>>(which the TSA say none ever did.)
>>
>>What I can prove is that we of the National Federation of the Blind
>>do not request the same dignity that is afforded to the sighted
>>public.  To do so would be to presume the possibility that we ought
>>to be treated any differently.  No, we insist upon it!  If my own
>>treatment is any indication, the Transportation Security
>>Administration seems to believe that we are merely asking for equal
>>treatment.  They seem to feel as if they are free to answer in the
>>negative.  I think it is time that we ensure they learn that they are
>>mistaken.  What do you think?
>>
>>T. Joseph Carter
>>Just a blind guy trying to get home
>>
>>
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