[nfb-talk] TSA discrimination in Orlando

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Steve and everyone,

    I did not receive a pat-down departing from San Antonio and leaving from 
Orlando yesterday. I put my guide dog at sit, made a long leash and passed 
through the metal detector without setting it off. Johnny's harness and 
leash contain metal and set off the detector earning him a pat-down. So far 
as I can tell his pat-down was no different than those done in the past.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Jacobson" <steve.jacobson at visi.com>
To: "Alicia Richards" <AliciaNFB at gmail.

Peter Donahue

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Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] TSA discrimination in Orlando


In my mind, we need to be careful how we look at this.  I agree completely 
with Mike's position that we are not going to win any court battles at this 
point
over invasion of personal space and such.  However, if the regulations 
permit us to keep our canes, particularly if there is a reasonable chance 
they won't
set off a metal detector, I don't see why it hurts to report a violation of 
the regulations to persons within the department.  I think we have a right 
to expect
consistent treatment.  If Joe passed through the metal detector and did not 
set it off but was patted down simply because someone was trying to teach 
him
a lesson, this is wrong in my opinion and needs to be challenged at least 
within the department or perhaps brought to the attention of the person who 
spoke
to NAGDU last week.  I don't know to what degree pat downs are supposed to 
be done in private, so I'm not so clear if there is an issue there.  What is 
an
issue is why the pat down if the detector didn't go off.  Of course, it is 
now Joe's word against theirs that it didn't go off.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson


On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:37:52 -0500, Alicia Richards wrote:

>I agree with Mike and others here.  Yes, the TSA has been given too much
>power.  It's shameful that they can perform such invasive patdowns,
>violating one's personal space and dignity.  but as Ryan said, that's not a
>blindness issue: they can do that to anyone.  And, I've never understood
>people's issue with giving up their cane for 30 seconds, taking someone's
>hand to walk five steps through the security check, and then have their 
>cane
>handed right back to them.  I question someone's mobility training if they
>are unable to walk five steps without their cane, and also can't help but
>wonder if they're exhibiting what I believe was once called, "rebellious
>independence," by refusing to take the hand or arm of a TSA official for
>that very brief time.  But to each their own.  Joseph, I'll be curious if
>you get a reply from Scott LaBarre about this?

>Alicia


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