[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

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Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
Date: 07/13/2011 1:47 pm

It was Starbucks coffee, not Starbucks storefront.  And yes, I 
stumbled the whole grounds looking for something.  Nothing to be had 
without cracking one patron’s MyFi that was using WEP encryption.  

When I have some employment, I’ve got to give one of those things 
serious consideration.

Joseph


On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 01:21:27PM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>Joseph,
>
>Did you actually check out that the Starbucks in the hotel did not have the AT&T WIFI?  It's certainly possible that their contract with AT&T is void in a hotel like the one in Orlando.  Still I'd of checked there before paying the $9.95 hotel rate.
>
>Thanks, William
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:22 PM
>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>
>Actually, from the hotel, the nearest thing to the main hotel was a
>Publix grocery store, and it was about 3/4 of a mile away.  Closer to
>the Rosen Centre was a Walgreens (no WiFi) and a Denny’s (no WiFi),
>and across another street was a Red Lobster (would have had no WiFi),
>and a McDonald’s (probably had WiFi, didn’t go there).
>
>The Starbucks coffee was had in the hotel, and as I’ve said, no WiFi,
>unless you paid $10 a day, and then it only worked in the hotel lobby
>whose distance from the meeting rooms was again half a mile.
>
>You have to understand, the hotel was MASSIVE.  It made Dallas look
>small by comparison.
>
>Joseph
>
>
>On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:57:56AM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>I do not have much sympathy over the 9.95 per day hotel internet.  These places use the extras to generate a huge part of their revenue.  Many have stated there were many businesses near the main hotel.  Why not locate a Starbucks or McDonalds or one of the growing number of businesses that provide free or low-cost WIFI for its customers?  I would not expect people to go off during sessions.  However sessions generally start at 9:00 A.M. always end around 5:00 P.M.  Which leaves sometime to care for checking the bank balance or reading email.
>>
>>It's a different issue for people who are working.  I've been pulled out of a session once or twice and asked to accomplish a task during a presentation I wanted to hear.  An internet connection would have been nice.
>>
>>
>>
>>Thanks, William
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:22 AM
>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>
>>$10 per day, with a half-mile hike from the meeting rooms to the
>>nearest place it could be used.  Wifi in hotel lobby, ethernet in
>>your room.  If you just needed to arrange a meeting, you had to walk
>>all that way and hope that the person at the other end had a way of
>>receiving the message.  Not everyone did.
>>
>>You couldn’t call if one or both parties were on certain cellphone
>>carriers, because one or both of you were unlikely to have service.
>>
>>And more than one person at convention was discussing the need to
>>connect to the Internet to monitor their bank account or similar (I
>>can’t recommend being dependent on that, however.)
>>
>>I personally had a package delivered while I was away that I wasn’t
>>sure actually got delivered until I got home.  I’m glad my neighbor
>>was able to sign for it, because my apartment manager was out last
>>week while I was in Orlando.
>>
>>There would have been a lot more coverage of convention on sites like
>>Twitter and Facebook, including drawing attention to the sub-minimum
>>wage stuff if people could have accessed those services.  In 2009
>>there was an attempt to organize a Tweet-up which half the twitter
>>users at convention didn’t know about because they didn’t have
>>access to Twitter.  If there was one in 2011, I never heard about it.
>>
>>Those of us working during session outside of the session hall would
>>have loved to have access to the stream.  We tried, of course, but it
>>didn’t work either because of poor cellular reception, the issues
>>with the stream, or both.
>>
>>The big sponsor for the convention this year was eBay.  It would’ve
>>been a lot easier in the eBay sessions (aside from the first one) if
>>people could’ve actually gotten on eBay to see and try the things
>>suggested.
>>
>>The Internet is part of how people do business in the modern world.
>>It’s an even bigger part of how the average younger blind person does
>>business.  Not having it available for eight days hobbled those of us
>>who could have done a lot more if we’d had it.
>>
>>Joseph
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:44:04PM -0400, d m gina wrote:
>>>yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>What was the cost to use their system?
>>>Five dollars?
>>>Would that be a day?
>>>Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say so
>>>myself, I plum don't do that bad.
>>>My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do something else.
>>>Keeps me thinking.
>>>
>>>Original message:
>>>>Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably goes to
>>>>conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the Internet. <<putting on
>>>>fire-resistant suit>>
>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>
>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>>>More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price anywhere in
>>>>the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one request of the
>>>>national office when we return, it would be to obtain internet access
>>>>for the meeting rooms and set up a few wifi routers at selected
>>>>locations for basic access.
>>>
>>>>Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice, very clean, nice
>>>>>rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge, people thought we walked a lot
>>>>>in Dallas, folks that is NOTHING! The food in the hotel was very very
>>>>>expensive, way way more than any of the restaurants in Dallas. It did help
>>>>>greatly to have the Publics across the street. If and when I go back, I
>>>>must
>>>>>remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi, yes it totally
>>>>>sucked there was no free access any where in the hotel. And yet again I am
>>>>>too cheap to buy it. As far as the cell coverage, I have Verizon and had
>>>>>converage every where in the hotel and rooms. So I think that really
>>>>depends
>>>>>on your carrier.
>>>
>>>>>Marsha
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>Behalf Of T. Joseph Carter
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>>>>Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr. Maurer was
>>>>>really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the two of them can
>>>>>work something out to reduce the nickel-and-dime effects somewhat.  I
>>>>>certainly have no objection to the hotel making money-but the
>>>>>incidental fees are both too high and too frequent to be comfortable.
>>>>>There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the hotel is
>>>>>full of cellular dead zones.
>>>
>>>>>Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>>>>On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>
>>>>>>Brian M
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>>>>>It was announced at the convention that conventions from 2013 through 2017
>>>>>>will be held in Orlando. I wish we could extend the length of the
>>>>>convention
>>>>>>back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for Wednesday afternoon.
>>>>>>That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have time to go
>>>>>places.
>>>>>>I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to keep people here
>>>>>>for five years in a row, we need to give them ample opportunity to take
>>>>>>advantage of all there is to do in Orlando. Besides, I like the banquet
>>>>the
>>>>>>night before the last day of convention.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Sherri Brun
>>>>>>"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." John
>>>>>>Lennon
>>>
>>>>>>Check out http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>
>>>>>>E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>>>>NFBF NewslineR chair
>>>>>>www.nfbnewsline.org
>>>>>>Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter http://nfbfgoc.org Secretary
>>>>>FDCP
>>>>>>INC www.fdcp.org Chair Orange County Disability Advisory Committee
>>>
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