[nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

Fri Jul 15 20:02:24 UTC 2011

The elevater in the one in Detroit was merder to find.  I did not use my walker when ever posible.  This one was easy,, but it shut down on us once and they had to take me on the freight elevator.  It was a bit scary going through a storage room in almost total dark, when you have some sight and depend on it.

Terry Powers

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I didn't have much trouble with the layout of Shingle Creek. It was easier than those circular hotels. Lol! Walking was good for me and for my dog.
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From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years

>I thought the Shingle Creek had a great layout. Besides, we're all
>supposed to get more exercise, aren't we?
>
> Mike
>
> On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:19, Jessica <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> Definitely a better choice going with the Rosen center. Sure the
>> hotel isn't massively big, but it definitely has a much better layout.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2011, at 4:56 AM, "David Evans" <drevans at bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>> The next convention in Orlando will be at the Rosen Center Hotel and
>>> it will be closer to I-Drive and there is lots of businesses around
>>> it there which is with in walking distance.
>>> We, here in the Florida Affiliate, are listening and we will try to
>>> be your eyes and ears leading up to the next convention.
>>> As for WIFI and Internet connections, we will let the Rosen Hotel
>>> know and as we have 2 years to work on it, who knows what will happen?
>>> Remember, this is a service that most other people must pay for.
>>> Why should we get it free if they don't?
>>> It would be nice, but don't count on it.
>>> I had no trouble with cell phone connections anywhere in the hotel
>>> and I use Verizon.
>>> Consider this.  Most buildings in Florida are of CBS and reinforced
>>> steel construction, they are dense and this can block cell phone
>>> signals to a degree depending upon where you are at.  I have that
>>> problem even in my own house and can just move 5 feet, either way
>>> and I get a signal again.  WIFI must stand for, "When I Feel Inclined."
>>>
>>> David Evans, NFBF and GD Jack.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jessica"
>>> <jessmonsilva2003 at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: <bundy at pobox.com>; "NFB Talk Mailing List" <nfb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>
>>>
>>>> I agree that wifi was pretty sparse in that area. An interesting
>>>> point though is this. Every convention I have been to the hotels
>>>> weren't close to much. When I stayed at the Rosen center I was
>>>> closer to a lot more stuff, so it strikes me odd why they couldn't
>>>> have it thre instead.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:28 AM, bundy at pobox.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> M5
>>>>>
>>>>> -original message-
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>> From: "T. Joseph Carter" <carter.tjoseph at gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: 07/13/2011 1:47 pm
>>>>>
>>>>> It was Starbucks coffee, not Starbucks storefront.  And yes, I
>>>>> stumbled the whole grounds looking for something.  Nothing to be
>>>>> had without cracking one patron's MyFi that was using WEP encryption.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I have some employment, I've got to give one of those things
>>>>> serious consideration.
>>>>>
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 01:21:27PM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>> Joseph,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you actually check out that the Starbucks in the hotel did
>>>>>> not have the AT&T WIFI?  It's certainly possible that their
>>>>>> contract with AT&T is void in a hotel like the one in Orlando.
>>>>>> Still I'd of checked there before paying the $9.95 hotel rate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph
>>>>>> Carter
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:22 PM
>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, from the hotel, the nearest thing to the main hotel was
>>>>>> a Publix grocery store, and it was about 3/4 of a mile away.
>>>>>> Closer to the Rosen Centre was a Walgreens (no WiFi) and a
>>>>>> Denny's (no WiFi), and across another street was a Red Lobster
>>>>>> (would have had no WiFi), and a McDonald's (probably had WiFi, didn't go there).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Starbucks coffee was had in the hotel, and as I've said, no
>>>>>> WiFi, unless you paid $10 a day, and then it only worked in the
>>>>>> hotel lobby whose distance from the meeting rooms was again half a mile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You have to understand, the hotel was MASSIVE.  It made Dallas
>>>>>> look small by comparison.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 06:57:56AM -0400, Wm. Ritchhart wrote:
>>>>>>> I do not have much sympathy over the 9.95 per day hotel internet.
>>>>>>> These places use the extras to generate a huge part of their
>>>>>>> revenue. Many have stated there were many businesses near the
>>>>>>> main hotel.  Why not locate a Starbucks or McDonalds or one of
>>>>>>> the growing number of businesses that provide free or low-cost
>>>>>>> WIFI for its customers?  I would not expect people to go off during sessions.
>>>>>>> However sessions generally start at 9:00 A.M. always end around
>>>>>>> 5:00 P.M.  Which leaves sometime to care for checking the bank
>>>>>>> balance or reading email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a different issue for people who are working.  I've been
>>>>>>> pulled out of a session once or twice and asked to accomplish a
>>>>>>> task during a presentation I wanted to hear.  An internet
>>>>>>> connection would have been nice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, William
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph
>>>>>>> Carter
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 4:22 AM
>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $10 per day, with a half-mile hike from the meeting rooms to the
>>>>>>> nearest place it could be used.  Wifi in hotel lobby, ethernet
>>>>>>> in your room.  If you just needed to arrange a meeting, you had
>>>>>>> to walk all that way and hope that the person at the other end
>>>>>>> had a way of receiving the message.  Not everyone did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You couldn't call if one or both parties were on certain
>>>>>>> cellphone carriers, because one or both of you were unlikely to have service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And more than one person at convention was discussing the need
>>>>>>> to connect to the Internet to monitor their bank account or
>>>>>>> similar (I can't recommend being dependent on that, however.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I personally had a package delivered while I was away that I
>>>>>>> wasn't sure actually got delivered until I got home.  I'm glad
>>>>>>> my neighbor was able to sign for it, because my apartment
>>>>>>> manager was out last week while I was in Orlando.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There would have been a lot more coverage of convention on sites
>>>>>>> like Twitter and Facebook, including drawing attention to the
>>>>>>> sub-minimum wage stuff if people could have accessed those
>>>>>>> services.  In 2009 there was an attempt to organize a Tweet-up
>>>>>>> which half the twitter users at convention didn't know about
>>>>>>> because they didn't have access to Twitter.  If there was one in
>>>>>>> 2011, I never heard about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those of us working during session outside of the session hall
>>>>>>> would have loved to have access to the stream.  We tried, of
>>>>>>> course, but it didn't work either because of poor cellular
>>>>>>> reception, the issues with the stream, or both.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The big sponsor for the convention this year was eBay.  It
>>>>>>> would've been a lot easier in the eBay sessions (aside from the
>>>>>>> first one) if people could've actually gotten on eBay to see and
>>>>>>> try the things suggested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Internet is part of how people do business in the modern world.
>>>>>>> It's an even bigger part of how the average younger blind person
>>>>>>> does business.  Not having it available for eight days hobbled
>>>>>>> those of us who could have done a lot more if we'd had it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:44:04PM -0400, d m gina wrote:
>>>>>>>> yes it is nice to check email though when you would wish.
>>>>>>>> What was the cost to use their system?
>>>>>>>> Five dollars?
>>>>>>>> Would that be a day?
>>>>>>>> Jim likes to check things out like that.
>>>>>>>> Me, I would rather use my new system with Verizon.
>>>>>>>> I have worked hard to do email by the phone, and even if I say
>>>>>>>> so myself, I plum don't do that bad.
>>>>>>>> My lists laugh at me if they get a blank message.
>>>>>>>> I even hit the wrong keys on this computer trying to do
>>>>>>>> something else.
>>>>>>>> Keeps me thinking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>> Of course, the question is *why?* After all, one presumably
>>>>>>>>> goes to conventions to attend meetings, not dabble on the
>>>>>>>>> Internet.
>>>>>>>>> <<putting on
>>>>>>>>> fire-resistant suit>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph
>>>>>>>>> Carter
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 5:35 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More frustrating was that there was no wifi at any price
>>>>>>>>> anywhere in the area of the meeting rooms.  Were I to make one
>>>>>>>>> request of the national office when we return, it would be to
>>>>>>>>> obtain internet access for the meeting rooms and set up a few
>>>>>>>>> wifi routers at selected locations for basic access.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 04:01:59PM -0400, Marsha Drenth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Just my two cents on this convention. The hotel was nice,
>>>>>>>>>> very clean, nice rooms, and the staff was great. It was huge,
>>>>>>>>>> people thought we walked a lot in Dallas, folks that is
>>>>>>>>>> NOTHING! The food in the hotel was very very expensive, way
>>>>>>>>>> way more than any of the restaurants in Dallas. It did help
>>>>>>>>>> greatly to have the Publics across the street. If and when I
>>>>>>>>>> go back, I
>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>> remember to take good walking shoes. In regards to the WiFi,
>>>>>>>>>> yes it totally sucked there was no free access any where in
>>>>>>>>>> the hotel. And yet again I am too cheap to buy it. As far as
>>>>>>>>>> the cell coverage, I have Verizon and had converage every
>>>>>>>>>> where in the hotel and rooms. So I think that really
>>>>>>>>> depends
>>>>>>>>>> on your carrier.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of T. Joseph
>>>>>>>>>> Carter
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 12:43 AM
>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, Mr. Rosen was REALLY impressed with the NFB, and Dr.
>>>>>>>>>> Maurer was really impressed with the facility.  Hopefully the
>>>>>>>>>> two of them can work something out to reduce the
>>>>>>>>>> nickel-and-dime effects somewhat. I certainly have no
>>>>>>>>>> objection to the hotel making money-but the incidental fees
>>>>>>>>>> are both too high and too frequent to be comfortable.
>>>>>>>>>> There isn't even lobby wifi access without a fee, and the
>>>>>>>>>> hotel is full of cellular dead zones.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Joseph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:43:17PM -0400, Brian Miller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Did they say if it was to be at the same hotel all those years?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Brian M
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:nfb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherri
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: NFB Talk Mailing List; blindtlk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nfb-talk] Convention in Orlando for 5 years
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It was announced at the convention that conventions from
>>>>>>>>>>> 2013 through 2017 will be held in Orlando. I wish we could
>>>>>>>>>>> extend the length of the
>>>>>>>>>> convention
>>>>>>>>>>> back to how it was and NFB would organize tours for
>>>>>>>>>>> Wednesday afternoon.
>>>>>>>>>>> That way, people could get excited about Orlando and have
>>>>>>>>>>> time to go
>>>>>>>>>> places.
>>>>>>>>>>> I liked the old schedule much better. If we are going to
>>>>>>>>>>> keep people here for five years in a row, we need to give
>>>>>>>>>>> them ample opportunity to take advantage of all there is to
>>>>>>>>>>> do in Orlando. Besides, I like the banquet
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> night before the last day of convention.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sherri Brun
>>>>>>>>>>> "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other
>>>>>>>>>>> plans." John Lennon
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.raceforindependence.org/goto/Sherri.Brun
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail: flmom2006 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> NFBF NewslineR chair
>>>>>>>>>>> www.nfbnewsline.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Vice-president NFB Greater Orlando Chapter
>>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbfgoc.org Secretary
>>>>>>>>>> FDCP
>>>>>>>>>>> INC www.fdcp.org Chair Orange County Disability Advisory
>>>>>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>>
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